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> as long as you comply with US laws (unfortunately) and the Fedora Code of Conduct. This is it, I'm not in the US, many aren't either, so why shall I suffer t

by ttarr 4y ago

> as long as you comply with US laws (unfortunately) and the Fedora Code of Conduct. This is it, I'm not in the US, many aren't either, so why shall I suffer the consequence of such decisions. Note sure if it's feasible to have a none-US build whilst based in the US. But for the time being it's over for me, I've been using Fedora for years and recommending it to friends and family, despite the RPM fusion required after initial setup, but not anymore. Let's see how welcoming Arch is.

sleepycatgirl 4y ago
Yeah.. Fedora was pretty nice, but this... is just silly. I myself ended up going to Arch (Really nice for gaming), then Gentoo, and ultimately settled on NixOS
- gigatexal 4y ago
  I might, too, as a long time Fedora fan, move to Arch for this. I wish they’d used their IBM/Redhat position and money to fight patent trolls in court with an attitude of: “come at me bro”. And until sued /lost don’t do anything.
  - type0 4y ago
    > money to fight patent trolls in court It's a shame that they at least don't want transfer the project to a Fedora association in Europe (zapsaný spolek in Brno) and legally insulate it. This just goes to show how much they care about community.
- brnt 4y ago
  (Why is Arch nice for gaming?)
  - sleepycatgirl 4y ago
    Mainly because of how easy it ks to install steam, mesa-git, and latest kernel. Back when I had Nvidia card, Arch also was least painless when it came to the drivers for some reason, alongside gentoo. AUR was certainly useful with getting game related stuff that wasn't in repos or so
jacooper 4y ago
This affects Europe too. open SUSE did the same thing. Other distros continued used became they might be too small to sue. https://twitter.com/spotfoss/status/1575885891922690048 https://twitter.com/spotfoss/status/1575885891922690048
- brnt 4y ago
  Germans are conservative. I wouldnt call them representative of European legal environments.
- jacooper 4y ago
  To use it* Mobile keyboards suck.
donkeybeer 4y ago
In what way are US laws a problem? Do you mean subjects like reverse engineering provisions or patent trolls? edit: Okay yes, so its mainly talking about patent trolls. It may be cold comfort but I think it could have been worse, there are much worse countries to be based in.
ksec 4y ago
Broadly speaking it is basically the export of culture and ideology. Sometimes that is a good thing, unfortunately this has recently been shifted way too far to one side. And if you look carefully, it isn’t just one project either, it is current, predominant, majority, vocal norm in US / Tech / Silicon Valley.

by ttarr 4y ago

sleepycatgirl 4y ago

Yeah.. Fedora was pretty nice, but this... is just silly. I myself ended up going to Arch (Really nice for gaming), then Gentoo, and ultimately settled on NixOS

gigatexal 4y ago
I might, too, as a long time Fedora fan, move to Arch for this. I wish they’d used their IBM/Redhat position and money to fight patent trolls in court with an attitude of: “come at me bro”. And until sued /lost don’t do anything.
- type0 4y ago
  > money to fight patent trolls in court It's a shame that they at least don't want transfer the project to a Fedora association in Europe (zapsaný spolek in Brno) and legally insulate it. This just goes to show how much they care about community.
brnt 4y ago
(Why is Arch nice for gaming?)
- sleepycatgirl 4y ago
  Mainly because of how easy it ks to install steam, mesa-git, and latest kernel. Back when I had Nvidia card, Arch also was least painless when it came to the drivers for some reason, alongside gentoo. AUR was certainly useful with getting game related stuff that wasn't in repos or so

jacooper 4y ago

This affects Europe too. open SUSE did the same thing. Other distros continued used became they might be too small to sue. https://twitter.com/spotfoss/status/1575885891922690048 https://twitter.com/spotfoss/status/1575885891922690048

brnt 4y ago
Germans are conservative. I wouldnt call them representative of European legal environments.
jacooper 4y ago
To use it* Mobile keyboards suck.

donkeybeer 4y ago

In what way are US laws a problem? Do you mean subjects like reverse engineering provisions or patent trolls? edit: Okay yes, so its mainly talking about patent trolls. It may be cold comfort but I think it could have been worse, there are much worse countries to be based in.

ksec 4y ago

Broadly speaking it is basically the export of culture and ideology. Sometimes that is a good thing, unfortunately this has recently been shifted way too far to one side. And if you look carefully, it isn’t just one project either, it is current, predominant, majority, vocal norm in US / Tech / Silicon Valley.