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PayPal shuts account of parents’ group that campaigned to keep schools open

70 points by bananapear 4y ago

MintDice 4y ago
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rvz 4y ago
Given that Flipper [0] encountered the same problems of PayPal seizing $1.3M that they earned without any explanation and are holding it for months, it only tells you why it makes zero sense to keep using PayPal as they WILL do it to anyone for no reason and essentially kill you business or suffocate your non-profit. Before you scream: "PaYpAL iS a pRiVAtE cOmPAny aNd cAn dO THiS", "iF yOu folLoW tHEiR TOS, iT wOnT hApPen tO yOu", etc they gave no reason and locked their funds without any explanation and went silent. PayPal doesn't care about who it is [1] and will do it to whoever and whenever they like, with little to no reason given. [0] https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1567194641610465281 https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1567194641610465281 [1] https://twitter.com/llsceptics/status/1567658400573448192 https://twitter.com/llsceptics/status/1567658400573448192
- metadat 4y ago
  What alternative solution do you propose, bud?
  - rvz 4y ago
    I'll tell you. Any service that gives an explanation of ToS violations and doesn't arbitrarily lock and ransom your money and fall silent; such as AlignPay [0]. The last resort is to accept and use crypto or stablecoins. [0] https://alignpay.com https://alignpay.com
    - metadat 4y ago
      Sounds good to me. Cheers and thank you.
- thrownawaysz 4y ago
  Isn't the problem that Flipper is a russian company? Considering the sanctions I would think the problem lies somewhere there.
- Arrath 4y ago
  This is why I stopped using paypal over a decade ago. Their ability to unilaterally shut down your account and seize the contents was just too much for me.
- hulitu 4y ago
  Paypal has this problem from at least 10 years. Yet some people never check or never learn.
dr_dshiv 4y ago
In the Netherlands, the teachers unions campaigned to keep schools open for kids during Covid. Honorable, IMO. We need a postmortem of the whole Covid event.
- Dma54rhs 4y ago
  Most of the Europe kept schools opened during the covid.
- heurisko 4y ago
  In the UK, the teachers union was campaigning to keep schools closed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/government-faces-major-revolt-on-schools-reopening-in-england-over-covid-fears https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/government-fac...
bearmode 4y ago
Good, since when the schools did reopen, they immediately had to shut again due to massive outbreaks that were directly related to the reopening of schools. God knows how many died or developed chronic illnesses due to schools reopening too early.
puyoxyz 4y ago
As usual, Paypal fucking sucks. Reminder that they have (or had for way too long) Autism Speaks in their charity donation thing, which is a “””charity””” that Actually Tortures Autistic People (or pays for autistic people to be tortured) And no, I’m not exaggerating !

70 points by bananapear 4y ago

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rvz 4y ago

Given that Flipper [0] encountered the same problems of PayPal seizing $1.3M that they earned without any explanation and are holding it for months, it only tells you why it makes zero sense to keep using PayPal as they WILL do it to anyone for no reason and essentially kill you business or suffocate your non-profit. Before you scream: "PaYpAL iS a pRiVAtE cOmPAny aNd cAn dO THiS", "iF yOu folLoW tHEiR TOS, iT wOnT hApPen tO yOu", etc they gave no reason and locked their funds without any explanation and went silent. PayPal doesn't care about who it is [1] and will do it to whoever and whenever they like, with little to no reason given. [0] https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1567194641610465281 https://twitter.com/flipper_zero/status/1567194641610465281 [1] https://twitter.com/llsceptics/status/1567658400573448192 https://twitter.com/llsceptics/status/1567658400573448192

metadat 4y ago
What alternative solution do you propose, bud?
- rvz 4y ago
  I'll tell you. Any service that gives an explanation of ToS violations and doesn't arbitrarily lock and ransom your money and fall silent; such as AlignPay [0]. The last resort is to accept and use crypto or stablecoins. [0] https://alignpay.com https://alignpay.com
  - metadat 4y ago
    Sounds good to me. Cheers and thank you.
thrownawaysz 4y ago
Isn't the problem that Flipper is a russian company? Considering the sanctions I would think the problem lies somewhere there.
Arrath 4y ago
This is why I stopped using paypal over a decade ago. Their ability to unilaterally shut down your account and seize the contents was just too much for me.
hulitu 4y ago
Paypal has this problem from at least 10 years. Yet some people never check or never learn.

dr_dshiv 4y ago

In the Netherlands, the teachers unions campaigned to keep schools open for kids during Covid. Honorable, IMO. We need a postmortem of the whole Covid event.

Dma54rhs 4y ago
Most of the Europe kept schools opened during the covid.
heurisko 4y ago
In the UK, the teachers union was campaigning to keep schools closed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/government-faces-major-revolt-on-schools-reopening-in-england-over-covid-fears https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/government-fac...

bearmode 4y ago

Good, since when the schools did reopen, they immediately had to shut again due to massive outbreaks that were directly related to the reopening of schools. God knows how many died or developed chronic illnesses due to schools reopening too early.

puyoxyz 4y ago

As usual, Paypal fucking sucks. Reminder that they have (or had for way too long) Autism Speaks in their charity donation thing, which is a “””charity””” that Actually Tortures Autistic People (or pays for autistic people to be tortured) And no, I’m not exaggerating !