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Where do you suggest?

by blhack 4y ago

xwdv 4y ago
Come to Austin.
- threeseed 4y ago
  Female participation in Engineering/IT is already unacceptably low. Texas making abortion illegal would discourage women from wanting to work there exacerbating the problem.
  - jacobriis 4y ago
    - bruceb 4y ago
      It is hassle for women, more so for poor women who might not have money laying around for flights and hotels. It is also the signal it sends about who thinks you should have no choice. Republicans were probably on their way to taking the house before Roe was struck down. Its the one issue for some that overrides other considerations.
    - csa 4y ago
      > How often are persons who self-identify as having the capacity for pregnancy having abortions that a two hour flight to Denver won't do? Iirc, anyone who knowingly assists this person in getting to Denver for the abortion is exposing themselves to criminal liability via the “community” whistleblower laws. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/workers-abortion-privacy-at-risk-as-texas-targets-employer-aid https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/workers-abo... “Texas is front and center in the abortion rights battle, drawing attention last year for a new whistleblower-type law (SB 8) that lets an individual sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion and receive a $10,000 reward.”
      - jacobriis 4y ago
        Why would you tell your Uber driver you're traveling to have an abortion? Probably TMI even without SB 8.
        csa 4y ago
        > Why would you tell your Uber driver you're traveling to have an abortion? Probably TMI even without SB 8. So an Uber driver would be the only person who could aid or assist someone getting to Denver from Texas? I think your point is very myopic here. More realistic examples are: - friend or family driving someone to the airport - friend or family paying for flight or donating miles - friend or family successfully assisting in searching for flight (tough to prove, but still illegal, and certain text messages with detailed suggestions could be damning evidence) - family or friend making lodging arrangements in Denver (with hotel, Airbnb, friend, etc.) - family or friend going with woman to Denver to help the woman with anything - family or friend sending encouragement messages like “hang in there” or “my thoughts and prayers are with you” - family or friend providing child care or pet care while woman is in Denver So, sure, technically this can be done without telling anyone involved, but it socially isolates the woman who is probably in a vulnerable spot. I think that is the goal of this legislation. “Hey Mom, I’m going to Denver for a few days just cuz. Could you please watch my pets and my house for a few days? Also, please don’t ask why I’m breaking down in tears all the time…” And that conversation assumes no financial assistance is needed for travel, lodging, or procedure.
        jacobriis 4y ago
        Persons who self identify as having the capacity for pregnancy manage to book flights and get to the airport on their own routinely. I really don't understand why people making the case you need to be a criminal mastermind to circumvent this law think that is credible.
    - dang 4y ago
      Please don't post flamebait to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - jacobriis 4y ago
        How is this an unrelated controversy and the parent comment is not? If the the question is whether a company should not locate themselves in Austin because of SB 8 is permitted, so too should the observation that prospective employees can readily circumvent the law with a day trip to Denver.
  - xwdv 4y ago
    So it should have little to no impact.
allenleee 4y ago
Miami, NYC, Austin

Where do you suggest?

by blhack 4y ago

Where do you suggest?

xwdv 4y ago

Come to Austin.

threeseed 4y ago
Female participation in Engineering/IT is already unacceptably low. Texas making abortion illegal would discourage women from wanting to work there exacerbating the problem.
- jacobriis 4y ago
  - bruceb 4y ago
    It is hassle for women, more so for poor women who might not have money laying around for flights and hotels. It is also the signal it sends about who thinks you should have no choice. Republicans were probably on their way to taking the house before Roe was struck down. Its the one issue for some that overrides other considerations.
  - csa 4y ago
    > How often are persons who self-identify as having the capacity for pregnancy having abortions that a two hour flight to Denver won't do? Iirc, anyone who knowingly assists this person in getting to Denver for the abortion is exposing themselves to criminal liability via the “community” whistleblower laws. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/workers-abortion-privacy-at-risk-as-texas-targets-employer-aid https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/workers-abo... “Texas is front and center in the abortion rights battle, drawing attention last year for a new whistleblower-type law (SB 8) that lets an individual sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion and receive a $10,000 reward.”
    - jacobriis 4y ago
      Why would you tell your Uber driver you're traveling to have an abortion? Probably TMI even without SB 8.
      - csa 4y ago
        > Why would you tell your Uber driver you're traveling to have an abortion? Probably TMI even without SB 8. So an Uber driver would be the only person who could aid or assist someone getting to Denver from Texas? I think your point is very myopic here. More realistic examples are: - friend or family driving someone to the airport - friend or family paying for flight or donating miles - friend or family successfully assisting in searching for flight (tough to prove, but still illegal, and certain text messages with detailed suggestions could be damning evidence) - family or friend making lodging arrangements in Denver (with hotel, Airbnb, friend, etc.) - family or friend going with woman to Denver to help the woman with anything - family or friend sending encouragement messages like “hang in there” or “my thoughts and prayers are with you” - family or friend providing child care or pet care while woman is in Denver So, sure, technically this can be done without telling anyone involved, but it socially isolates the woman who is probably in a vulnerable spot. I think that is the goal of this legislation. “Hey Mom, I’m going to Denver for a few days just cuz. Could you please watch my pets and my house for a few days? Also, please don’t ask why I’m breaking down in tears all the time…” And that conversation assumes no financial assistance is needed for travel, lodging, or procedure.
        jacobriis 4y ago
        Persons who self identify as having the capacity for pregnancy manage to book flights and get to the airport on their own routinely. I really don't understand why people making the case you need to be a criminal mastermind to circumvent this law think that is credible.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't post flamebait to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - jacobriis 4y ago
      How is this an unrelated controversy and the parent comment is not? If the the question is whether a company should not locate themselves in Austin because of SB 8 is permitted, so too should the observation that prospective employees can readily circumvent the law with a day trip to Denver.
- xwdv 4y ago
  So it should have little to no impact.

allenleee 4y ago

Miami, NYC, Austin