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A handful of DeWalt power tools are "assembled from global materials" in USA, https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-dewalt-tools-made/ https://www.allameric

A handful of DeWalt power tools are "assembled from global materials" in USA, https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-dewalt-tools-made/ https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-dewalt-tools-made/ Jackson, TN Air compressors Hempstead, MD Drill and saw components Charlotte, NC Cordless drills, screwdrivers Greenfield, IN Grinder, recip saws, hammer drills

rch 4y ago
Same for STIHL: > A majority of STIHL products sold in America are made in America of U.S. and foreign materials. --https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/ https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/
- arbitrage 4y ago
  They're so "made in america" that you have to put qualifiers on that statement ... not buying it, sorry.
  - bcohen5055 4y ago
    This qualifier is actually more about lawyers and accountants. The US has a very unclear policy about labeling something as USA Made. It comes down to the US content in the BOM cost and it is specific to costs essential to the product, at my last 2 companies these decisions were left to accounting and legal. In my current company we make sunglasses a non-polarized pair of sunglasses will say made in USA and a polarized pair will say assembled in the USA because the polarized wafers are not domestically made. In both cases the boxes, stickers, and logos are non domestic but aren't counted because they "aren't essential". In my previous company anything that had electronics from overseas had to be "assembled" but electronics from NAFTA areas were "usa made" In reality it doesn't make much sense to ever have a BOM 100% USA made as that fully negates the benefits of trade but we should have policies that still encourage companies that chose to conduct business here. When consumers are turned off by "assembled in" it drives business out of the country. *I work as a product development engineer for consumer goods. My current role and previous company both had US MFG sites Edit: here is a link to the requirements https://www.nist.gov/standardsgov/compliance-faqs-made-usa#4 https://www.nist.gov/standardsgov/compliance-faqs-made-usa#4
e-master 4y ago
Indeed, I had one of those - absolutely lovely piece of machinery, as most dewalt tools really.
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
That manufacturing process is the result of bean counters determining it's a waste to ship boxed products that are 50% air overseas in a container. Ship the broken down components instead with denser packing and have a minimum wage worker bolt it together stateside. It isn't an enlightened return to domestic production.
- recursv_thnkng 4y ago
  There are tax implications as well when shipping fully assembled products. The big auto manufacturers have done this to avoid tariffs on vehicle imports.
  - raverbashing 4y ago
    True. CKD kits are a great tax-saving trick, and you can also claim to have "a factory" in the country
- stacktrust 4y ago
  It's a start. Next step is automation-heavy U.S. production of specific components.
  - petestream 4y ago
    It's more like the endgame. 1. Western companies moves production of components to China. 2. Chinese companies becomes good enough to produce their own products. 3. Western companies starts rebranding Chinese products. 4. Chinese companies buy western companies. 5. Chinese companies open factories in western countries. Manufacturing isn't industry in itself and the growth of industry is orders of magnitude more in China. Most people just have no idea how supply chains work or how many R&D centers are opening up elsewhere. Many western countries are no longer great industrial economies but still far from real knowledge economies. Western countries don't really have the infrastructure, housing or education necessary and increasingly not alternative ways of competing either like creativity, influence or equality. There is a documentary called "American Factory". It isn't the best but it is something.
blt 4y ago
My understanding was that those materials are more like electric motors and fully assembled control PCBs, not sheets of steel and spools of insulated wire.
moogly 4y ago
Makita too, in Buford, GA. Not sure which tools, other than some corded planers.
- eropple 4y ago
  I try not to be too much of a fan of tools, as for corded stuff I mostly buy what's cheap, but the DeWalt DW735 planer is a tool that really makes me happy. I've had to take it apart to put in an upgraded cutting head and the process of doing so was a really pleasurable education in how mechanical tools (which I don't know much about) actually work.
dmix 4y ago
DeWalt and Milwuakee are owned by the same parent company.
- eropple 4y ago
  You've got them mixed up. DeWalt is Stanley Black & Decker, which also makes modern, non-Sears Craftsman tools, along with a bunch of others--Bostitch nailers, Irwin, whatever's left of the Porter-Cable line, and upscale stuff like MAC (uses DeWalt batteries, as it happens) or Proto. Milwaukee is TTI, which owns Home Depot's exclusive Ryobi and Ridgid brands, along with Empire (measuring devices), Hart (Ryobi but for Wal-Mart), and AEG (Ridgid but for Europe). The other "big" one worth mentioning is Chervon, who own Flex, Skil (aside: their 12V stuff is surprisingly good!), and make Lowe's Kobalt tools.
  - silisili 4y ago
    Pretty well summed up. It's an even hairier mess when you look at the details. For example, TTI licenses the Ryobi name from the Japanese Ryobi, and produces tools for Ridgid while not actually owning the brand. The odd one out usually forgotten is Positec. They have a rather interesting history, and today make the Worx stuff...which honestly aren't bad tools.
    - eropple 4y ago
      Oh yeah, the off-model and the multi-model tools are a rat's nest. I own a Delta 36-725T2 tablesaw, bought from Lowe's. Delta is now owned by Chang Type Industrial (who own the Delta name now). The same factory makes the Ridgid R4560 table saw, sold at Home Depot. The Delta Cruzer was one of the earliest zero-rear-clearance miter saws and there's a Ridgid one of those now, too. I'm honestly kind of glad, it means there's more better tools getting into people's hands now, but the color is an assault upon the eyes. I could've bought an R4560 probably two months before my 36-725T2, but I do woodworking because I like it, and I don't like "ORANGE!" being shouted at me every time I open the garage door.
      - 4y ago
nichos 4y ago
Craftsman started doing a lot of hand tools stateside too.

rch 4y ago

Same for STIHL: > A majority of STIHL products sold in America are made in America of U.S. and foreign materials. --https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/ https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/

arbitrage 4y ago
They're so "made in america" that you have to put qualifiers on that statement ... not buying it, sorry.
- bcohen5055 4y ago
  This qualifier is actually more about lawyers and accountants. The US has a very unclear policy about labeling something as USA Made. It comes down to the US content in the BOM cost and it is specific to costs essential to the product, at my last 2 companies these decisions were left to accounting and legal. In my current company we make sunglasses a non-polarized pair of sunglasses will say made in USA and a polarized pair will say assembled in the USA because the polarized wafers are not domestically made. In both cases the boxes, stickers, and logos are non domestic but aren't counted because they "aren't essential". In my previous company anything that had electronics from overseas had to be "assembled" but electronics from NAFTA areas were "usa made" In reality it doesn't make much sense to ever have a BOM 100% USA made as that fully negates the benefits of trade but we should have policies that still encourage companies that chose to conduct business here. When consumers are turned off by "assembled in" it drives business out of the country. *I work as a product development engineer for consumer goods. My current role and previous company both had US MFG sites Edit: here is a link to the requirements https://www.nist.gov/standardsgov/compliance-faqs-made-usa#4 https://www.nist.gov/standardsgov/compliance-faqs-made-usa#4

e-master 4y ago

Indeed, I had one of those - absolutely lovely piece of machinery, as most dewalt tools really.

kevin_thibedeau 4y ago

That manufacturing process is the result of bean counters determining it's a waste to ship boxed products that are 50% air overseas in a container. Ship the broken down components instead with denser packing and have a minimum wage worker bolt it together stateside. It isn't an enlightened return to domestic production.

recursv_thnkng 4y ago
There are tax implications as well when shipping fully assembled products. The big auto manufacturers have done this to avoid tariffs on vehicle imports.
- raverbashing 4y ago
  True. CKD kits are a great tax-saving trick, and you can also claim to have "a factory" in the country
stacktrust 4y ago
It's a start. Next step is automation-heavy U.S. production of specific components.
- petestream 4y ago
  It's more like the endgame. 1. Western companies moves production of components to China. 2. Chinese companies becomes good enough to produce their own products. 3. Western companies starts rebranding Chinese products. 4. Chinese companies buy western companies. 5. Chinese companies open factories in western countries. Manufacturing isn't industry in itself and the growth of industry is orders of magnitude more in China. Most people just have no idea how supply chains work or how many R&D centers are opening up elsewhere. Many western countries are no longer great industrial economies but still far from real knowledge economies. Western countries don't really have the infrastructure, housing or education necessary and increasingly not alternative ways of competing either like creativity, influence or equality. There is a documentary called "American Factory". It isn't the best but it is something.

blt 4y ago

My understanding was that those materials are more like electric motors and fully assembled control PCBs, not sheets of steel and spools of insulated wire.

moogly 4y ago

Makita too, in Buford, GA. Not sure which tools, other than some corded planers.

eropple 4y ago
I try not to be too much of a fan of tools, as for corded stuff I mostly buy what's cheap, but the DeWalt DW735 planer is a tool that really makes me happy. I've had to take it apart to put in an upgraded cutting head and the process of doing so was a really pleasurable education in how mechanical tools (which I don't know much about) actually work.

dmix 4y ago

DeWalt and Milwuakee are owned by the same parent company.

eropple 4y ago
You've got them mixed up. DeWalt is Stanley Black & Decker, which also makes modern, non-Sears Craftsman tools, along with a bunch of others--Bostitch nailers, Irwin, whatever's left of the Porter-Cable line, and upscale stuff like MAC (uses DeWalt batteries, as it happens) or Proto. Milwaukee is TTI, which owns Home Depot's exclusive Ryobi and Ridgid brands, along with Empire (measuring devices), Hart (Ryobi but for Wal-Mart), and AEG (Ridgid but for Europe). The other "big" one worth mentioning is Chervon, who own Flex, Skil (aside: their 12V stuff is surprisingly good!), and make Lowe's Kobalt tools.
- silisili 4y ago
  Pretty well summed up. It's an even hairier mess when you look at the details. For example, TTI licenses the Ryobi name from the Japanese Ryobi, and produces tools for Ridgid while not actually owning the brand. The odd one out usually forgotten is Positec. They have a rather interesting history, and today make the Worx stuff...which honestly aren't bad tools.
  - eropple 4y ago
    Oh yeah, the off-model and the multi-model tools are a rat's nest. I own a Delta 36-725T2 tablesaw, bought from Lowe's. Delta is now owned by Chang Type Industrial (who own the Delta name now). The same factory makes the Ridgid R4560 table saw, sold at Home Depot. The Delta Cruzer was one of the earliest zero-rear-clearance miter saws and there's a Ridgid one of those now, too. I'm honestly kind of glad, it means there's more better tools getting into people's hands now, but the color is an assault upon the eyes. I could've bought an R4560 probably two months before my 36-725T2, but I do woodworking because I like it, and I don't like "ORANGE!" being shouted at me every time I open the garage door.
    - 4y ago

nichos 4y ago

Craftsman started doing a lot of hand tools stateside too.