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He claimed to buy Twitter, specifically, to clean it up; to get rid of bots. That was his stated goal. "If our twitter bid succeeds, we will defeat the spam bo

He claimed to buy Twitter, specifically, to clean it up; to get rid of bots. That was his stated goal. "If our twitter bid succeeds, we will defeat the spam bots or die trying!" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517215066550116354 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517215066550116354

kennxfl 4y ago
Apparently Twitter subpoenaed Musk's friends and colleagues who were actively tweeting about the deal with what is believed to be an attempt to prove he encouraged his posse tweet negatively to force a lower price.
- threeseed 4y ago
  David Sachs, prominent VC was one of those subpoenaed and he definitely seemed a little sensitive about it: https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1554258141876932608 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1554258141876932608
  - SilverBirch 4y ago
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  - nocoiner 4y ago
    My heart bleeds for him. He’s achieved tremendous success in a remarkably successfully economy based on dynamism and the rule of law, and now he’s asked to do his part, under oath, to maintain that system. Doesn’t he know that part is for chimps?* *Tried to write “chumps,” but liked the typo better.
madeofpalk 4y ago
The weird part is that "twitter has lots of spam bots" is a completely independent claim from "5% of the users who use our website or 1st party apps are bots".
- rurp 4y ago
  Yep, which I'm sure Elon and his entire crew of bankers and lawyers understand quite well. Musk is lying and sowing confusion in order to mislead people.
- swores 4y ago
  While your comment is technically true standing alone, you've also slightly misunderstood what the 5% figure is about. It's not "users who use our website or 1st party apps", it's "monetizable daily active users", which may be similar to the group of users you described, but most importantly Twitter can choose not to show any ads (or not to charge money for ads shown) to bot accounts. So even if Twitter only had 1 single non-bot user, as long as that's the only user they are "monetizing" they would be at 0% of mDAUs being bots. Therefore, as jcranmer commented elsewhere in this thread, the 5% is actually their estimate of their own false negative rate of detecting bots (i.e. deciding which accounts can be monetised vs not).

kennxfl 4y ago

Apparently Twitter subpoenaed Musk's friends and colleagues who were actively tweeting about the deal with what is believed to be an attempt to prove he encouraged his posse tweet negatively to force a lower price.

threeseed 4y ago
David Sachs, prominent VC was one of those subpoenaed and he definitely seemed a little sensitive about it: https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1554258141876932608 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1554258141876932608
- SilverBirch 4y ago
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- nocoiner 4y ago
  My heart bleeds for him. He’s achieved tremendous success in a remarkably successfully economy based on dynamism and the rule of law, and now he’s asked to do his part, under oath, to maintain that system. Doesn’t he know that part is for chimps?* *Tried to write “chumps,” but liked the typo better.

madeofpalk 4y ago

The weird part is that "twitter has lots of spam bots" is a completely independent claim from "5% of the users who use our website or 1st party apps are bots".

rurp 4y ago
Yep, which I'm sure Elon and his entire crew of bankers and lawyers understand quite well. Musk is lying and sowing confusion in order to mislead people.
swores 4y ago
While your comment is technically true standing alone, you've also slightly misunderstood what the 5% figure is about. It's not "users who use our website or 1st party apps", it's "monetizable daily active users", which may be similar to the group of users you described, but most importantly Twitter can choose not to show any ads (or not to charge money for ads shown) to bot accounts. So even if Twitter only had 1 single non-bot user, as long as that's the only user they are "monetizing" they would be at 0% of mDAUs being bots. Therefore, as jcranmer commented elsewhere in this thread, the 5% is actually their estimate of their own false negative rate of detecting bots (i.e. deciding which accounts can be monetised vs not).