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It's a Linux project aimed at being a Linux OS to compete with MacOs. As per usual with the linux community it's "if you want it roll your own". That's why the

It's a Linux project aimed at being a Linux OS to compete with MacOs. As per usual with the linux community it's "if you want it roll your own". That's why the year of the Linux desktop will never come.

nrdvana 5y ago
My "year of the Linux desktop" was 2018 when for the first time ever I was able to play a AAA video game (Deus Ex Mankind Divided) installed from Steam with nothing but normal GUI mouse clicks. Sadly there haven't been many AAA games with Linux compatibility (that I wanted to play) since then. Valve is still pushing it though.
rowanG077 5y ago
> "if you want it roll your own" Yes, and every other mainstream OS is: "No, this is not supported.". I don't see how Linux is seen as worse then that answer. If anything this post proves how rapidly the Linux community moves. Within a year there is working Linux on FULLY proprietary hardware. And not just a funny PoC. No, you can daily drive this thing. Let's see how long it takes for Windows to run on the M1...
howinteresting 5y ago
This is ridiculous. Linux, including Bluetooth, works great on regular PCs. In fact with Pipewire, Bluetooth on Linux these days is generally in better shape than on other OSes.
- nullwarp 5y ago
  Seriously my Jabra's and Senny BT headphones pickup and work flawlessly with my Linux desktop. Meanwhile my Sennhesier headphones work sometimes with my POS mac to the point where I have to tell people If i don't immediately pick up it's because I'm wasting 15 minutes trying to get my headphones to pair with my Mac.
mattl 5y ago
The year of the Linux desktop was March 2020-March 2021 when millions were given a Chromebook against their will. EDIT: To everyone downvoting this: nobody cares, nobody is listening to you.
- Shared404 5y ago
  This makes me so upset. I love honestly love a lot of Chromebook hardware. It's honestly exactly what I want in a laptop - long battery life, efficient, lightweight, decent enough keyboard. But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. I should really grab a Pinebook Pro I guess. And that's without getting into all the privacy issues of students being forced to use Google software/hardware, or the schools spying on students through the Chromebooks.
  - mattl 5y ago
    Yeah it’s bleak but true. Somehow I got downvoted for it.
  - my123 5y ago
    > But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. That's not even the most painful part. Full data wipe when switching between security modes is outright user-hostile, and would be widely considered as unacceptable if Microsoft or Apple did that on their general-purpose computing platforms.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
      > Full data wipe when switching between security modes is outright user-hostile, I don't think it's user hostile to prevent all security models from being dragged to the lowest common denominator. If they didn't do that, an attacker could just switch to a more insecure mode and go after your data.
sudosysgen 5y ago
You're trying to run Linux on an M1. If you want to just have it work, grab a good x86 computer, and you'll have it mostly just work.
alluro2 5y ago
It's an early alpha version of such project. Clearly stated at the beginning of post. Your comment indicates that you are expecting the community to serve your feature requests, while not even pointing out to the "beneath you" opportunity to contribute yourself. If not willing to put the effort into desktop configuration or "rolling your own" features, why are you bothering with Linux? You can be better served by Windows or MacOS. But you might find your feature requests to fall on deaf ears there. In my experience, a Linux desktop is unparalleled in flexibility, productivity and stability, if given some time/effort to configure and adapt to your workflows - it's been years and years "of Linux desktop" already for people who care.

nrdvana 5y ago

My "year of the Linux desktop" was 2018 when for the first time ever I was able to play a AAA video game (Deus Ex Mankind Divided) installed from Steam with nothing but normal GUI mouse clicks. Sadly there haven't been many AAA games with Linux compatibility (that I wanted to play) since then. Valve is still pushing it though.

rowanG077 5y ago

> "if you want it roll your own" Yes, and every other mainstream OS is: "No, this is not supported.". I don't see how Linux is seen as worse then that answer. If anything this post proves how rapidly the Linux community moves. Within a year there is working Linux on FULLY proprietary hardware. And not just a funny PoC. No, you can daily drive this thing. Let's see how long it takes for Windows to run on the M1...

howinteresting 5y ago

This is ridiculous. Linux, including Bluetooth, works great on regular PCs. In fact with Pipewire, Bluetooth on Linux these days is generally in better shape than on other OSes.

nullwarp 5y ago
Seriously my Jabra's and Senny BT headphones pickup and work flawlessly with my Linux desktop. Meanwhile my Sennhesier headphones work sometimes with my POS mac to the point where I have to tell people If i don't immediately pick up it's because I'm wasting 15 minutes trying to get my headphones to pair with my Mac.

mattl 5y ago

The year of the Linux desktop was March 2020-March 2021 when millions were given a Chromebook against their will. EDIT: To everyone downvoting this: nobody cares, nobody is listening to you.

Shared404 5y ago
This makes me so upset. I love honestly love a lot of Chromebook hardware. It's honestly exactly what I want in a laptop - long battery life, efficient, lightweight, decent enough keyboard. But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. I should really grab a Pinebook Pro I guess. And that's without getting into all the privacy issues of students being forced to use Google software/hardware, or the schools spying on students through the Chromebooks.
- mattl 5y ago
  Yeah it’s bleak but true. Somehow I got downvoted for it.
- my123 5y ago
  > But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. That's not even the most painful part. Full data wipe when switching between security modes is outright user-hostile, and would be widely considered as unacceptable if Microsoft or Apple did that on their general-purpose computing platforms.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    > Full data wipe when switching between security modes is outright user-hostile, I don't think it's user hostile to prevent all security models from being dragged to the lowest common denominator. If they didn't do that, an attacker could just switch to a more insecure mode and go after your data.

sudosysgen 5y ago

You're trying to run Linux on an M1. If you want to just have it work, grab a good x86 computer, and you'll have it mostly just work.

alluro2 5y ago

It's an early alpha version of such project. Clearly stated at the beginning of post. Your comment indicates that you are expecting the community to serve your feature requests, while not even pointing out to the "beneath you" opportunity to contribute yourself. If not willing to put the effort into desktop configuration or "rolling your own" features, why are you bothering with Linux? You can be better served by Windows or MacOS. But you might find your feature requests to fall on deaf ears there. In my experience, a Linux desktop is unparalleled in flexibility, productivity and stability, if given some time/effort to configure and adapt to your workflows - it's been years and years "of Linux desktop" already for people who care.