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I made the switch last September from Spotify back to Apple Music. 1 reason and 1 reason only. Lossless. Why Spotify still doesn't offer this as an option is

by circa 5y ago

I made the switch last September from Spotify back to Apple Music. 1 reason and 1 reason only. Lossless. Why Spotify still doesn't offer this as an option is beyond me. I get that its a small amount of people who care but still why not offer it? I would pay a little more to use their service.

DashAnimal 5y ago
You know, I used to care about lossless but more and more the proof has been stacking on that MP3 compression is an amazing technology and I just don't have the ears to discern. I would love to know how you do in this test: https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/... For me, it was enough to prove that lossy is good enough for everyday listening.
- felix318 5y ago
  That was interesting. I listen mostly to classical and had no trouble whatsoever with the Mozart track, the difference was clear. The other tracks I was forced to guess and, strangely, got all wrong answers! Compressed classical music annoys me to no end, although for a long time I couldn’t tell why. Then I found out, the problem is the artifacts, which you may not be aware of but they do affect your emotional response. This page has an amazing description of the issues: https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compression-does-your-music https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compressio...
speedgoose 5y ago
Do you notice the difference between lossless and 320kbits/s ogg vorbis ?
criddell 5y ago
I've been trying to use Apple Music with their web client and it's astonishingly slow. I can't understand how it could be so bad.
- salamandersauce 5y ago
  Yeah it's not good. I've only used a handful of times and every single time it just stopped playing in the middle of a song for no reason. It also sucks that they can't be bothered to create apps for anything other than their own stuff and Android. I can use Amazon music or Spoify with my Garmin Watch but not Apple Music.
  - criddell 5y ago
    I think you can still use iTunes on Windows.

by circa 5y ago

DashAnimal 5y ago

You know, I used to care about lossless but more and more the proof has been stacking on that MP3 compression is an amazing technology and I just don't have the ears to discern. I would love to know how you do in this test: https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/... For me, it was enough to prove that lossy is good enough for everyday listening.

felix318 5y ago
That was interesting. I listen mostly to classical and had no trouble whatsoever with the Mozart track, the difference was clear. The other tracks I was forced to guess and, strangely, got all wrong answers! Compressed classical music annoys me to no end, although for a long time I couldn’t tell why. Then I found out, the problem is the artifacts, which you may not be aware of but they do affect your emotional response. This page has an amazing description of the issues: https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compression-does-your-music https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compressio...

speedgoose 5y ago

Do you notice the difference between lossless and 320kbits/s ogg vorbis ?

criddell 5y ago

I've been trying to use Apple Music with their web client and it's astonishingly slow. I can't understand how it could be so bad.

salamandersauce 5y ago
Yeah it's not good. I've only used a handful of times and every single time it just stopped playing in the middle of a song for no reason. It also sucks that they can't be bothered to create apps for anything other than their own stuff and Android. I can use Amazon music or Spoify with my Garmin Watch but not Apple Music.
- criddell 5y ago
  I think you can still use iTunes on Windows.