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This is huge. Ontario is the "California" engine province of Canada, similar in geographic size and sophistication. It subsidizes the rest of Canada (the "have
by redis_mlc 5y ago
This is huge.
Ontario is the "California" engine province of Canada, similar in geographic size and sophistication. It subsidizes the rest of Canada (the "have-nots"), but it can afford to do so.
To give you an idea of how sophisticated Ontario is, most Hollywood comedians and a large percentage of writers are originally from the Toronto, ON area because of their writing and self-production abilities.
Ontario universities have a direct brain-drain pipeline to SV, but this will help them return later in their careers.
- acchow 5y ago> Ontario is the "California" engine province of Canada Quick Wikipedia lookup of Canadian provinces by GDP per capita shows Ontario’s at 61k CAD, which precisely matches Canada’s overall Whereas Alberta’s is 31% higher.
- jleyank 5y agoOne has oil/gas and the other has money/tech. And I'm not sure per capita is the proper metric if you're looking at funding a country rather than comparing them.
- gentleman11 5y agoOil and gas in Alberta is hurting and most of the oil and gas workers I know have left the industry or become unemployed
- gnabgib 5y agoHave you played Mass Effect, used Java or OpenBSD? One has natural resources and money and tech. Different parts of Canada bring different things to the table.
- bregma 5y agoSDP per capital is a poor metric when for years your social service policy was explicitly a one-way bus ticket to Vancouver.
- traject_ 5y ago> To give you an idea of how sophisticated Ontario is, most Hollywood comedians and a large percentage of writers are originally from the Toronto, ON area because of their writing and self-production abilities. Haha, that's just because Ontario has a large population with respect to Canada as a whole. Sophistication is not the right word to use as someone from Ontario.
- hervature 5y agoThat's quite the Kool-Aid. I am also from Ontario and have the exact opposite conclusions as you. > It subsidizes the rest of Canada (the "have-nots"), but it can afford to do so. This is only a very recent phenomena that they are not getting equalization payments [1]. Even then, it's mostly because of the bottom provinces falling even further than Ontario rising. Don't even be tempted to blame this on the rural areas as Toronto alone accounts for about half the population. > To give you an idea of how sophisticated Ontario is, most Hollywood comedians and a large percentage of writers are originally from the Toronto, ON area because of their writing and self-production abilities. Such a sophisticated engine cannot keep them? > Ontario universities have a direct brain-drain pipeline to SV, but this will help them return later in their careers. From my personal experience, other than interns and students, I don't know a single Canadian who opted to build a career in the US and later to return. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_payments_in_Canada#Equalization_formula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_payments_in_Canad...
- antoineMoPa 5y ago> It subsidizes the rest of Canada (the "have-nots"), but it can afford to do so. How? I was wondering if you were talking about equalization payments, but it looks like Ontario is sending none and it used to receive payments from other provinces during most of the 2010's. Also, many provinces may claim to be the California of Canada based on different aspects (laws, taxation, proximity to west coast, health system, climate, car-centricity - where Ontario would win, etc.), but this has the same value as cities claiming they are the new SV: not so much.
- dghlsakjg 5y agoHardly. BC has the real title of Canadas California! We have unaffordable housing, restrictive zoning powered by aging hippy boomers in multimillion dollar homes, temperate weather, and a massive film industry. To top it off we resent our conservative neighbors to the East and have a chip on our shoulders about our overlords in the east. BC is definitely the California of Canada. The thing that unites all Canadians though is our strong belief that our neighbors to the south are dangerous and run by a corrupt and incompetent political system, regardless of their suitability as a winter vacation spot. Which… I guess is a feeling that the Americans have too.