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Local TV News managed to interview a neighbor from directly across the street where the explosion occurred[1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iag6cTWpgq8

Local TV News managed to interview a neighbor from directly across the street where the explosion occurred[1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iag6cTWpgq8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iag6cTWpgq8

orblivion 6y ago
Interesting things to consider. 1) I heard something about "fake reports" about gunshots. But maybe the perp shot off some guns just to get the cops to show up? 2) This woman stuck around for 15 minutes or a half hour while this thing was saying "you need to evacuate, this has a bomb"??? 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are!
- macintux 6y ago
  > This woman stuck around for 15 minutes or a half hour while this thing was saying "you need to evacuate, this has a bomb"??? Watching a video, the audio was so surreal I had to ask myself how I would respond if I heard that without any clue where it was coming from. Hopefully I never find out, but I guess now I'm a bit more mentally prepared to not linger.
- resonantjacket5 6y ago
  There were gunshots sounds but we're not sure if it was audio from the RV or actual gun shots
  - orblivion 6y ago
    This makes for such a fascinating story. Supervillain type stuff. Except fortunately in this case a supervillian with some sort of code of ethics.
    - sillysaurusx 6y ago
      Let's not idolize crazy. Fascinating, yes. But supervillains have redeeming qualities. There's nothing redeeming about a car bomb.
      - ALittleLight 6y ago
        Well playing a warning and picking a time and place to minimize casualties is some kind of redeeming. It would certainly be worse if they tried to kill people, picking a crowded place and time.
        sillysaurusx 6y ago
        I guess. I'm just sad I lived to see a second legit terrorist attack on American soil. I remember being in 8th grade when sept11 happened.
        ALittleLight 6y ago
        I think there have been several attacks of this magnitude or worse since September 11. e.g. The Boston Marathon bombing or the anthrax attacks, or Christopher Dorner (though maybe that's less terrorist and more revenge). There have been lots. I think, so long as this wasn't a test run for a coordinated attack on the telecoms, then this is not a very bad terrorist attack.
        sillysaurusx 6y ago
        Yeah, that’s a good point. I forgot entirely about the Boston marathon bombing. And in comparison, that one was indeed much worse... my Airbnb host at the time was participating in the race, and almost got caught in the explosion. Hmm. Well, it will be interesting to see whatever motivated this bombing.
        sneak 6y ago
        That's not even counting the hundreds of officially sanctioned terror attacks by US police in that time.
  - cozzyd 6y ago
    Does Nashville use Shotspotter? I wonder what the frequency range of their sensors is (I would guess a real gunshot would have pretty different spectral range from a speaker).
- astura 6y ago
  > I heard something about "fake reports" about gunshots. But maybe the perp shot off some guns just to get the cops to show up? Reports of gunshots weren't fake because multiple witnesses heard gunshots. No idea if it was related to the bombing or not. Example: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2eobyKNLHiZ1eLupyVr7U-3qmwgXkgG2cjbXehvzpozfETlLTR28EZ7RY https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion/index.... >McCoy said he was originally woken up by what he believed were gunshots prior to the explosion. He got up and looked out the window, he said, but went back to bed when he didn't see anything. Asked if the noise he heard could have been something other than gunfire, McCoy emphasized that he believed it was, saying he owns a gun and goes shooting, so he's familiar with the sound of gunshots.
  - partiallypro 6y ago
    The prevailing theory is that there were no gun shots, but gun shots were played over the speakers to wake people up so they would evacuate.
    - Throwaway1771 6y ago
      Why ammo in RV then?
      - bigbubba 6y ago
        Perhaps the RV was stolen from an American.
- js2 6y ago
  Re 3, here's some more examples: "How Many of Your Memories Are Fake?" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-of-your-memories-are-fake/281558/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-... "Reliability of Eyewitness Reports to a Major Aviation Accident": https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=ijaaa https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&co...
- doctorshady 6y ago
  Maybe she was right, and there were two voices? The female announcement sounds like it was edited. Badly. This might explain the strange verbiage as well ("All buildings" stands out. That particularly phrase, with its inflection, sounds like it originally came from the end of a sentence too). I've heard other people say it sounds like the same voice used by the city during the summer protests or something along those lines. For the purposes of arguing, let's say someone got ahold of some municipal evacuation recordings and chopped them up for this. It's not likely they had enough phrases to warn people a bomb would be going off in specifically fifteen minutes. EDIT: For anyone curious about other instances of bad edits, listen to the word "this"; there's another word before that, and it was cut off: "thi-this area must be evacuated now". Also, "if you can hear this message, <unnatural pause> evacuate now." It's not likely any professional voiceover person would announce this way, nor would anyone who's paid attention to basic edits before consider this passable. If this is all true, I guess the next question to ask is who would have access to those announcements, and who would think to use them? Most people would probably just use some text-to-speech thing unless it was easy/they had good reason. I'm probably overthinking this, though.
  - orblivion 6y ago
    The audio equivalent of writing a ransom note with magazine clippings!
  - vsareto 6y ago
    Looks like it may be Microsoft Anna text-to-speech. The poster added reverb and echo and it was very, very close to the youtube security video that captured the warnings. The device that recorded that may have also skipped on its own recording and may not be perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B--BNdnuvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B--BNdnuvA The original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU
    - doctorshady 6y ago
      This is probably a much more likely explanation; we'll see when we get bodycam footage or anything else if there's a better recording of what was being played. But for whatever it's worth, most TTS engines are modeled around well known voiceover people. It's still possible that since the engine didn't reproduce a 1:1 copy and there's no discernable (at least to me) artifacts in the one copy of sound footage we have, that was the real person, and she just announced it slightly differently.
- takeda 6y ago
  > 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are! Here is the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU I actually also watched the video before reading that it was a female voice and also thought it was male.
  - orblivion 6y ago
    Holy shit I think the same thing happened to me. Maybe this is one of those perception quirks rather than a memory quirk. Listening again, I could see it being a man with a voice like David Sedaris.

orblivion 6y ago

Interesting things to consider. 1) I heard something about "fake reports" about gunshots. But maybe the perp shot off some guns just to get the cops to show up? 2) This woman stuck around for 15 minutes or a half hour while this thing was saying "you need to evacuate, this has a bomb"??? 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are!

macintux 6y ago
> This woman stuck around for 15 minutes or a half hour while this thing was saying "you need to evacuate, this has a bomb"??? Watching a video, the audio was so surreal I had to ask myself how I would respond if I heard that without any clue where it was coming from. Hopefully I never find out, but I guess now I'm a bit more mentally prepared to not linger.
resonantjacket5 6y ago
There were gunshots sounds but we're not sure if it was audio from the RV or actual gun shots
- orblivion 6y ago
  This makes for such a fascinating story. Supervillain type stuff. Except fortunately in this case a supervillian with some sort of code of ethics.
  - sillysaurusx 6y ago
    Let's not idolize crazy. Fascinating, yes. But supervillains have redeeming qualities. There's nothing redeeming about a car bomb.
    - ALittleLight 6y ago
      Well playing a warning and picking a time and place to minimize casualties is some kind of redeeming. It would certainly be worse if they tried to kill people, picking a crowded place and time.
      - sillysaurusx 6y ago
        I guess. I'm just sad I lived to see a second legit terrorist attack on American soil. I remember being in 8th grade when sept11 happened.
        ALittleLight 6y ago
        I think there have been several attacks of this magnitude or worse since September 11. e.g. The Boston Marathon bombing or the anthrax attacks, or Christopher Dorner (though maybe that's less terrorist and more revenge). There have been lots. I think, so long as this wasn't a test run for a coordinated attack on the telecoms, then this is not a very bad terrorist attack.
        sillysaurusx 6y ago
        Yeah, that’s a good point. I forgot entirely about the Boston marathon bombing. And in comparison, that one was indeed much worse... my Airbnb host at the time was participating in the race, and almost got caught in the explosion. Hmm. Well, it will be interesting to see whatever motivated this bombing.
        sneak 6y ago
        That's not even counting the hundreds of officially sanctioned terror attacks by US police in that time.
- cozzyd 6y ago
  Does Nashville use Shotspotter? I wonder what the frequency range of their sensors is (I would guess a real gunshot would have pretty different spectral range from a speaker).
astura 6y ago
> I heard something about "fake reports" about gunshots. But maybe the perp shot off some guns just to get the cops to show up? Reports of gunshots weren't fake because multiple witnesses heard gunshots. No idea if it was related to the bombing or not. Example: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2eobyKNLHiZ1eLupyVr7U-3qmwgXkgG2cjbXehvzpozfETlLTR28EZ7RY https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion/index.... >McCoy said he was originally woken up by what he believed were gunshots prior to the explosion. He got up and looked out the window, he said, but went back to bed when he didn't see anything. Asked if the noise he heard could have been something other than gunfire, McCoy emphasized that he believed it was, saying he owns a gun and goes shooting, so he's familiar with the sound of gunshots.
- partiallypro 6y ago
  The prevailing theory is that there were no gun shots, but gun shots were played over the speakers to wake people up so they would evacuate.
  - Throwaway1771 6y ago
    Why ammo in RV then?
    - bigbubba 6y ago
      Perhaps the RV was stolen from an American.
js2 6y ago
Re 3, here's some more examples: "How Many of Your Memories Are Fake?" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-of-your-memories-are-fake/281558/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-... "Reliability of Eyewitness Reports to a Major Aviation Accident": https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=ijaaa https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&co...
doctorshady 6y ago
Maybe she was right, and there were two voices? The female announcement sounds like it was edited. Badly. This might explain the strange verbiage as well ("All buildings" stands out. That particularly phrase, with its inflection, sounds like it originally came from the end of a sentence too). I've heard other people say it sounds like the same voice used by the city during the summer protests or something along those lines. For the purposes of arguing, let's say someone got ahold of some municipal evacuation recordings and chopped them up for this. It's not likely they had enough phrases to warn people a bomb would be going off in specifically fifteen minutes. EDIT: For anyone curious about other instances of bad edits, listen to the word "this"; there's another word before that, and it was cut off: "thi-this area must be evacuated now". Also, "if you can hear this message, <unnatural pause> evacuate now." It's not likely any professional voiceover person would announce this way, nor would anyone who's paid attention to basic edits before consider this passable. If this is all true, I guess the next question to ask is who would have access to those announcements, and who would think to use them? Most people would probably just use some text-to-speech thing unless it was easy/they had good reason. I'm probably overthinking this, though.
- orblivion 6y ago
  The audio equivalent of writing a ransom note with magazine clippings!
- vsareto 6y ago
  Looks like it may be Microsoft Anna text-to-speech. The poster added reverb and echo and it was very, very close to the youtube security video that captured the warnings. The device that recorded that may have also skipped on its own recording and may not be perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B--BNdnuvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B--BNdnuvA The original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU
  - doctorshady 6y ago
    This is probably a much more likely explanation; we'll see when we get bodycam footage or anything else if there's a better recording of what was being played. But for whatever it's worth, most TTS engines are modeled around well known voiceover people. It's still possible that since the engine didn't reproduce a 1:1 copy and there's no discernable (at least to me) artifacts in the one copy of sound footage we have, that was the real person, and she just announced it slightly differently.
takeda 6y ago
> 3) This woman recalls a male voice but the news played a female voice. This goes to show how bad our memories are! Here is the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nygTJeu9fU I actually also watched the video before reading that it was a female voice and also thought it was male.
- orblivion 6y ago
  Holy shit I think the same thing happened to me. Maybe this is one of those perception quirks rather than a memory quirk. Listening again, I could see it being a man with a voice like David Sedaris.