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Linode launches native IPv6 support
- uggedal 15y agoLooks like this is somewhat dependent on their data center providers: This will be a phased roll-out across the facilities, starting with immediate availability in Fremont, Newark in a week or so, followed by Dallas. From the FAQ[1] page: Fremont, CA: Yes Dallas, TX: Soon Atlanta, GA: No ETA Newark, NJ: About a week London, UK: Q4 2011 [1]: http://www.linode.com/IPv6/ http://www.linode.com/IPv6/
- mike-cardwell 15y agoNative isn't available in their London DC yet. Doesn't matter though. I've been using a free IPv6 tunnel broker whos end point is less than 1ms away from my Linode: http://tunnelbroker.net/ http://tunnelbroker.net/
- joeyh 15y agoWow, just one IPv6 address for free, pay for the rest. Granted, you're paying for addresses pooled among hosts with failover, which could be well worth paying for. But come on Linode, a single IPv6 address allocation is ridiculous. Update: Found this post by caker (linode guy) http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7055&highlight=ipv6 http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7055&highlight=i... He mentions a third option involving a /64, does not mention if it will cost extra: "We'll also be rolling out support to have an entire /64 routed to one of your IPv6 Linodes, which you can then route wherever you please."
- marshray 15y agoWell they also give you a single IPv4 address, and they scale it proportionally for IPv6. This is just like having one IPv4 address times one IPv4 address times one IPv4 address times one IPv4 address.
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- sp332 15y agoFor perspective: IANA instructs RIRs to allocate no less than a /32 to each customer. That leaves 32 bits for those customers to resell smaller subnets, usually /64. 32 bits is as much as the entire IPv4 Internet, so they can sell as many /64 subnets as there are individual computers on the IPv4 Internet. So even if Linode only bought 1 of these /64 subnets, they would have 64 bits of address space to allocate to their customers. I think they can spare more than one :)
- joeyh 15y agoAnd it's not just academic, consider if you want to run lots of https and support browsers that don't support https on one address. Not to mention all the applications for many addresses that should develop if/when ipv6 is widespread. As a further datapoint, I have two systems with native ipv6, and each have a /64.
- marshray 15y agoconsider if you want to run lots of https and support browsers that don't support https on one address Then Linode expects you to pay more money for the privilege of doing that. They got paid per-https-site over IPv4, they want their cut on IPv6 too.
- magamiako 15y ago^ This. I generally see most providers going this way.
- bdonlan 15y agoLinode has a /30: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2600-3C00-1 http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2600-3C00-1
- sp332 15y agoThat's equivalent to 4 /32 subnets, or 2^34 = 17,179,869,184 /64 subnets. I think they could afford to give each customer a /64. IPv6 subnets don't really get smaller than /64. The way the routing is configured, the first 64 bits are "network address" and the last 64 bits are the "interface address". One /64 subnet has 2^64 addresses, about 18.4 quintillion.
- wewyor 15y agoI really hope it is some sort of mistake, arpnetworks give you a /48 but I believe you are limited to /64 by default. Even so though tunnel brokers give out /64's and having to pay for that with native support would be rather silly.
- rgraham 15y agoAre they just thumbing the nose at rackspace/slicehost here? I'm amused either way. They should offer a credit or discount for switching right now. I think it'd convert like mad.
- joeyh 15y agoNot really. Ipv6 support has been an open and much-discussed wishlist feature on the Linode forums for ages, and a few months ago they finally committed to providing it ASAP.
- remi 15y agoOn the same day that Slicehost announced that it will move into Rackspace because of the transition to IPv6… What are the odds?
- chc 15y agoIt might be related, but from the release schedule it seems pretty clear that at most Slicehost prompted Linode to release this feature a few months earlier than planned.
- jmillikin 15y ago> Can I get more than one IPv6 address? > > A single IPv6 address can be assigned to your Linode for free. I hope this is a misunderstanding -- if not, it's actually a huge step backwards. The current solution for IPv6 in linode (HE tunnel to static IPv4 address) gives each node a full /64. It could be argued that this is a bit excessive, but it seems fairly typical, and lets you do useful things like serve multiple SSL sites from a single host without bothering with SNI.
- marshray 15y agoThis will soon be the biggest barrier to support of IPv6: the cash they make from leasing and selling their allocated IPv4 address space.
- magamiako 15y agoThis is the plan. And that's the intent. They still want to make money off of addressing even though they shouldn't.
- swajr 15y agoThe owner of Linode (caker) has clarified on IRC stating that the /128 will be provided to each node, however they will also provide a /64 per datacenter, per account upon request for a nominal fee. The /64 will be routed to your /128 so that you can control how the addresses in your /64 are handed out. The fee has not been disclosed, yet.
- Macha 15y agoSo in short it isn't a misunderstanding and they want to charge you per item for something that, for all intents and purposes, is like a single drop of water in an ocean.
- tptacek 15y agoThey want to charge you for the drop, the space in their RIB to store the drop, the maintenance effort required to keep the RIB entry configured correctly, and the ongoing support costs of people who do things with their Linode boxes that require more than one IPv6 address.
- ramidarigaz 15y agoI'm really glad to see IPv6. I dearly love Linode. But only one address?
- nwmcsween 15y agoConsidering Linode's main datacenter is he.net in Fremont, CA I don't see why they are billing for ipv6 as it's free for them. Also he.net in fremont has ridiculously cheap bandwidth and colo pricing with routes a bit better than cogent which isn't really saying much.
- JshWright 15y agoTheir 'main' datacenter? All 5 DCs are actively used. In fact, if any DC were to be called their main DC, I suppose it would be the Softlayer (formerly The Planet) DC in Dallas.
- dholowiski 15y agoWhile the geek in me thinks this is really super cool, the realist in me wonders why on earth I would need an IPV6 address _now_. All though we're "out" of IPV4 addresses, no hosting company has run out (I can still get all the IPV4 based VPS's & dedicated servers I want). Maybe I care 4 years from now, but I'm not sure I really care now... except it is really cool.
- bdonlan 15y agoThis is the perfect time to get practice using IPv6, so you're not scrambling when it _does_ get scarce :)
- dholowiski 15y agoThat's a really good point. Although if it's just for practice I's rather wait for it to come to EC2 and just pay by the hour to practice.
- wmf 15y agoThe point of dual-stack servers is to more efficiently serve the imminent DS-Lite clients where IPv6 is more efficient than IPv4.
- hartror 15y ago"DS-Lite"?
- wmf 15y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_transition_mechanisms#Dual-Stack_Lite_.28DS-Lite.29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_transition_mechanisms#Dual... (What a shame; they gave this protocol an un-Googleable name.)
- hartror 15y agoPhew! I was hoping it wasn't something to do with Nintendo! Thanks!
- EGreg 15y agoThat is awesome news!
- dholowiski 15y agoNot so subtle dig at slicehost/rackspace... "Does this affect existing and new Linodes? Nope. Not at all. No forced migrations here. "
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