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It's likely solve the gap of "I can't use my phone while it's wirelessly charging". With the magsafe thing you can just clunk the charger to the back of your ph
by curiouser2 6y ago
It's likely solve the gap of "I can't use my phone while it's wirelessly charging". With the magsafe thing you can just clunk the charger to the back of your phone and keep using it. While battery life is still crap on these (side note - I didn't hear a single thing in the presentation about battery life... yikes) people are going to be charging their phones while they use them.
I hate to be a pessimist but with them not including a charger or headphones, they're slowly moving toward no data port whatsoever
- cmckn 6y agoI guess my confusion is basically that: if I want to use my phone while it charges, I just plug it in with a lightning cable. I don’t need it to “wirelessly” charge if I’m having to connect something to the device anyway. It seems to be a weird 3rd option for charging. They’re definitely getting rid of the port, maybe next year.
- DominikPeters 6y agoTwo advantages: (1) the Lightning port can wear out if used often, but the magnets won't; (2) you can attach and remove the phone from a magnetic charger with one hand and without looking / in the dark.
- contravariant 6y ago>the Lightning port can wear out if used often Wait what? I hope you're just saying it can get scratched or warped with rough/improper use.
- millzlane 6y agoI have not had an iphone come in with a worn lighting port. 10/10 times it has been extremely packed pocket lint preventing the cable from seating correctly.
- throwanem 6y agoI've had that problem, but I've also had the cable clips in the sides of the socket lose some of their grip over time. They're spring steel, but even spring steel is still somewhat subject to plastic deformation with enough cycles. It's never gotten bad enough to be a problem with mine, but I'm still happier to be using magnetic charging cables most of the time. That's primarily for the convenience of it, which is significant, but I don't mind that they also preserve the connector. (They're especially convenient in the car. I have an SE, but even with a phone that supported inductive charging, I suspect I'd stick with the magnetic-mount-and-cable arrangement - it's exactly as convenient as inductive charging, with no risk of compromise on the strength of the mount in order to get one with half a transformer in it.)
- mccolin 6y agoThe lightning port can essentially loosen over time, meaning the “snap” of the cable grips less and the plug can become susceptible to falling out. This has happened to me, even as someone who takes good care of his phone.
- gowld 6y agoHave you tried canned air to clear debris?
- hvidgaard 6y agoEven on very old very carelessly used phones I have not seen this. Every single time the lightning cable does not snap into place, it's some packed lint that is the problem. It can be removed with some care and it works fine after that.
- gkop 6y agoAny moving part will wear out eventually.
- sudosysgen 6y agoEverything under, around, inside and outside the sun will wear out eventually. The lightning port is not even close to being one of the parts that will wear out first.
- gkop 6y agoIf the wireless charging mechanism is solid state, it’s immune from mechanical wear. Mechanical wear matters for example if you have a Roku, and the buttons in the remote control physically wear out. You can just instead use your phone app to control it over WiFi, and the WiFi antenna will “never” wear out because it’s solid state. Source: I have an old Roku
- Retric 6y agoSolid state devices can still fail from mechanical stress. Heat cycling and strong magnetic fields could be a problem for wireless charging even if they don’t need to be. The core issue is generally trying to use the cheapest solution, not just mechanical stress. Ethernet connectors are probably the best example of this, for servers that might be moved every few years their cheap and maintain a solid connection. It’s really desktops and especially laptops where they become such a major issue.
- gkop 6y agoI’m struggling to understand your point. Phones are closer to laptops in that in typical use a wired power connection is frequently plugged and unplugged, so mechanical wear is an important consideration. Why are you bringing up Ethernet on servers in this context, when as you say the pattern of use is utterly different? I know almost nothing about wireless charging. But have fair experience with working with WiFi devices. In my lifetime, I have observed 0 cases of failure on the WiFi client mechanism, and exactly 1 case of a WiFi router failing due to hardware. Meanwhile, power plugs are the most common part I have experienced wearing out on consumer electronics. Have you experienced lots of failures of solid state electronics due to eg. hear cycling and magnetic fields?
- jacobush 6y agoMoisture can cause permanent damage when charging. (Corrosion.)
- torgian 6y agoI can’t agree. My iPhone 6 is about six years old, and the port still works like new.
- nmfisher 6y agoCounterpoint - I have an iPhone 6 that has exactly this problem. The cable doesn't get seated properly, so occasionally it stops charging or disconnects when attached to a computer.
- deberon 6y agoTry cleaning the pocket lint out of it. Major quality of life improvement for me.
- Angostura 6y agoAnother +1 for lint. Use a wooden toothpick and be gentle
- roydivision 6y agoThis. I’ve just solved exactly those problems by cleaning out the hole.
- akg_67 6y agoI upgraded from 6S to 2nd gen SE because of intermittent charging of 6S. Over time, port became loose, cable didn’t fit and come out easily.
- state_less 6y ago(3) Lightning cables corrode quickly in the salty sea air. Good inductive charging is an advantage here.
- _emacsomancer_ 6y agoI assume the non-swappable battery will give out long before the lightning port wears out.
- torgian 6y agoWell I live in taiwan, so it’s easy to find someone to swap out the battery. I might upgrade to a 12. It’s a nice number; 6,12.... 18?
- binaryblitz 6y ago> you can attach and remove the phone from a magnetic charger with one hand and without looking / in the dark. You can't do that with the cable?
- gnicholas 6y agoPlugging also charges faster than inductive charging, so when you 'need' to charge your phone you should prefer plugging direct.
- conception 6y agoThe primary use case is watching a movie or listening to music with headphones. Can’t charge and listen without an extra dongle. Apples solution is BT headphone they sell but it’s a bad pattern.
- cmckn 6y agoFair enough, but I bit the bullet on AirPods Pro earlier this year and have been really impressed.
- smcl 6y agoI've used Apple phones for the last ~10 years but I have held back on AirPods as I've read a few reports from people whos AirPods have lasted ~18 months before the (non-replaceable, because Apple) battery begins to heavily degrade.
- reaperducer 6y agonon-replaceable, because Apple Non-replaceable by you because the AirPods are so small. But they can be replaced by Apple for $49. Or $0 if they're still covered under AppleCare.
- 72deluxe 6y agoI agree it is a bad pattern. Remove features from a device to force you to buy an alternative accessory. Nowhere else would anybody accept this - eg. a car that came without a steering wheel so you had to buy one. Next they'll take the screen from the phone and force you to buy an accessory screen!
- reaperducer 6y agoa car that came without a steering wheel so you had to buy one. When I bought a new Ford pick-up truck in the 90's, it didn't come with a rear bumper. That was an add-on. I presume because different people will want different rear bumpers (regular, towing, something else). When I lived in the desert, I regularly saw brand pick-up trucks without tailgates, or with various specialty ones, so I assume those are also optional.
- cpuguy83 6y agoConsider that iPad has replaced lightning with usb-c and that having ports takes up a lot of space... I think they are just planning to phase out lightning and go port-less on the iPhone.
- tcoff91 6y agoHow the hell will car play work without a port?
- CPLX 6y agoMy current car does Carplay wirelessly. You connect via WiFi.
- seanmcdirmid 6y agoBluetooth? Heck, even without car play it works fairly well.
- twodayslate 6y agoWireless CarPlay already exists
- OkGoDoIt 6y agoSure, it has existed for several years. But I’ve yet to drive a single car that supports it. By my understanding only super expensive high-end luxury cars support it, and even then it’s hit and miss. I’ve never seen it with my own eyes.
- geronb 6y agoAlmost all BMWs from the past few years have it. We have a 2017 X5 and wireless CarPlay works very well and is very convenient.
- binaryblitz 6y agoAn X5 is a pretty high-end luxury car.
- hajile 6y agoSite claims about the same with small pro losing an estimated hour and mini having 5 hours or so less.