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Every Noise at Once
- 867-5309 7y agoUkrainian Choir are nnexed to nothing
- VohuMana 7y agoI use this site a lot, it is pretty good for finding new music especially new genres of music. I discovered Arab Metal last week which was pretty good.
- dmerrick 7y agoMy friends' band is in there as "Boston metal". Cool stuff!
- karmoka 7y agoYou guys should check out Quebec related music :) Some pretty good bands up here.
- colorincorrect 7y agoMissing a few modern genres such as Bubblegum Bass and Deconstructed Club. Would be interested to see what this site has to say about those genres.
- SeanLuke 7y agoHow are these genres being plotted? What are the axes? What are the text colors?
- fao_ 7y agoScroll to the bottom, it says there.
- sauwan 7y agoAt the bottom of the page it describes this a little better: >The calibration is fuzzy, but in general down is more organic, up is more mechanical and electric; left is denser and more atmospheric, right is spikier and bouncier. Not sure about the colors though.
- ssewell 7y agoWow! I'm having flashbacks to Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music.
- captn3m0 7y agoI’ve been told multiple times that I don’t really have a taste in music, because I listen to a confusing mix of genres. This is perfect for me. So much more to discover.
- jerf 7y agoYou're not the only one. I have tastes in music, even strong ones, but they don't tend to follow the way genres seem to be split at all. Defining a genre by its characteristic instrument set, for instance, doesn't match how I tend to react to things very well, but it's a fairly popular way of separating genres, it seems. (I'm not saying I don't understand the use of that metric, it's very, well, available, in the sense of "availability heuristic". But I do not personally find it all that useful.)
- fao_ 7y agoIt's sad that it only has one example for tanci, a genre I discovered due to this list, that aside from wikipedia is barely documented on the internet. After some searching I've managed to recover about 6 hours / 58 tracks of tanci in a spotify playlist -- most of it under the 'various artists' tag, one of the reasons why it was difficult to find any artists, I expect. I'm sure spotify has more of it and that it's uncategorized and badly labelled. You can find it here, if anyone is interested: https://open.spotify.com/user/gallefray/playlist/6CzafKwRUi5UcBqsv3VAPF?si=dnlleoNJSsGyBLMoZx-vTw https://open.spotify.com/user/gallefray/playlist/6CzafKwRUi5...
- morgosmaci 7y agoTalk about false advertising. I couldn't find the button that plays all of the samples at the same time.
- sharkweek 7y agoI was expecting a super obnoxious brown note of every noise ever playing at once... ...but it IS still pretty cool.
- Verdex 7y agoI was hoping for that as well ... however the thing that I found was much better than my expectations. So I think it's ultimately okay. If you still feel that you didn't get what you were looking for ... here's an acceptable substitute perhaps? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5h3qXAQOQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5h3qXAQOQI
- Fellshard 7y agoHere I was expecting silence, as each sound - including each sound's inverse - was played simultaneously.
- stefco_ 7y agoDepends how you take the sum! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergent_series#Absolute_convergence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergent_series#Absolute_conv... [edit] See my comment below: my joke is about the fact that, depending on the order in which you sum an infinite sequence of waveforms, you can create a sequence that converges to any sound you want [1] (as long as those waveforms together span the full frequency space). Note also that a sum over a truly continuous space of arbitrary waveforms is even more ill-defined. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_series_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_series_theorem
- ctrl-j 7y agoSound waves are physical. You cannot change the empirical outcome by doing the math differently. Sound waves are indeed cancelled out by their inverse.
- kmill 7y agoThis would make sense if it were physically possible to play every noise at once. (Where would you place the infinitely many emitters? If they have any displacement at all, then there will be points that would not experience destructive interference at all frequencies.)
- LanceH 7y agoIsn't the inverse of a sound the same sound?
- noir_lord 7y agoNope, it's flipped on the horizontal axis (if you picture it as a graph) so when both are summed you get zero (at least in perfect destructive interference).
- rpmisms 7y agoThe bottom of the page is a little weird. "Byzantine" is not Russian Liturgical Music. This is Byzantine Chant: https://youtu.be/Bs--5yMg1g0 https://youtu.be/Bs--5yMg1g0 Also, Georgian Polyphony did not involve strings as a general rule. There were regional exceptions, but early Slavic polyphony was generally a capella. Here's a good example of Gerogian polyphony: https://v-s.mobi/elia-lrdei-princeton-georgian-choirs-fall-2011-02:19 https://v-s.mobi/elia-lrdei-princeton-georgian-choirs-fall-2... Sorry to nitpick, but I hate to see a fascinating corner of music ignored. Happy Listening!
- p1esk 7y agoIt seems like "Byzantine" is just an unfortunate label, which should be "church music", but if you expand it you will see that byzantine chant is present.
- rpmisms 7y agoIt's still too broad. Byzantine chant is an entire discipline in itself, and so are a bunch of other categories included in "Church Music". There's a category for Anglican choirs, so why not for Russian "Greek" chant or Kievan/Znamenny Polyphony? There's a lot of territory here.
- p1esk 7y agoIt's a map of Spotify, not an encyclopedia of music. I believe it's intended to give you a taste of something you've never heard of.
- rpmisms 7y agoThen I'll back up to the fact that it should actually play the correct music for the tag.
- gooseserbus 7y agoBlame Spotify's misclassification then
- jaypeg25 7y agoThis site just gave me a nostalgic flashback to the type of thing I'd stumble across (heh) via StumbleUpon.
- doctorRetro 7y agoI don't get it. I mean, I understand what I'm looking at; a word cloud of music genres that is each linked to a sample. That part I got. But when you label your website 'Every Noise at Once'... I kind of expect to hear multiple (perhaps not 'every') noises at the same time.
- enneff 7y agoI suppose the title is whimsical and not literal.
- cronix 7y agoI was expecting to just hear white noise. Isn't that what all frequencies is added together, like the color white is all colors added together?
- robmiller 7y agoWhite noise is equal energy across all frequencies linearly. Sounds hissy because there are more frequencies included within each musical octave as you go higher. A more even-sounding spectrum is pink noise which is equal energy per base 2 logarithmic bandwidth. Sounds like a waterfall.
- Schwolop 7y agoYou should look up 'black noise' on the chart. It's music generated using MIDI so that the printed score maximises the quantity of black ink used. The "music" aspect is like listening for the whitespace in a sea of sound. http://everynoise.com/engenremap-blacknoise.html http://everynoise.com/engenremap-blacknoise.html
- moyniyam 7y agoNot sure i get it either.
- KnightOfWords 7y agoCould really use a volume control on the page.
- Avery3R 7y agoThe examples this site chooses aren't the greatest... It maps an entire artist to a genre, so when one artist makes multiple genres of music the examples end up being very off. Take dubstep for example, the artist they chose for the example is Skream, one of the people who popularized dubstep, but the song they chose is his latest release "Otto's Chant" which is tech house, not dubstep. Skream hasn't even made any dubstep in quite a while.
- stuntkite 7y agoThis reminds me of the old school flash app Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. Man was that thing ahead of it's time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishkur%27s_Guide_to_Electronic_Music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishkur%27s_Guide_to_Electronic...
- Spellman 7y agoIt still exists! http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
- skrebbel 7y agoNeeds Flash player,of course. If you're on Windows, Edge is an easy way to run the site without installing shit you'll regret later.
- ajxs 7y agoI came here to post that very same thing. What a great resource that was!
- Avery3R 7y agohttps://twitter.com/Ishkur23 https://twitter.com/Ishkur23 A new version is coming out in a couple of weeks(supposedly).
- antihero 7y agoOh my god, no way! That guide shaped my entire music taste. I'd spend fucking hours trawling through it. One thing that's really funny is now with my current taste, going back on there and re-listening to the clips of artists that are now in my mainstay.
- heyplanet 7y agoFor an interactive music map with bands, check out Music-Map: https://www.music-map.com https://www.music-map.com You start at a band of your choice and then can travel all the bands in the world.
- nrjames 7y agoWhere this site really shines is when you get into a genre that links to a series of linked Spotify playlists. Pretty awesome for exploring Intro, Edge, Pulse, playlists of genres of music you like. It's great for discovery of new artists.
- mmazing 7y agoYeah, I've been searching for a specific genre (what to even call it) for a long time and I feel like this site just gave me a treasure trove of artists I didn't know about. +1 from me
- wingerlang 7y agoSame here, in a specific genre I like all the artists were clumped together. Would be cool to see something like this on song-level, not artist/group.
- SideburnsOfDoom 7y agoIncomplete for starters, no Kwela, Mbaqanga, Marabi, or Highlife. Allthough here is Kwaito
- asow92 7y agoReminds me of https://www.surfr.fm/music https://www.surfr.fm/music
- Tade0 7y agoSo many bands from the "progressive alternative" genre are now either defuct or stopped releasing material.
- billyc74 7y agosame for this genre called "classical", whatever that is.
- sehugg 7y agoEvery Noise at Once is an ongoing attempt at an algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for 3,294 genres by Spotify as of 2019-07-29. The calibration is fuzzy, but in general down is more organic, up is more mechanical and electric; left is denser and more atmospheric, right is spikier and bouncier. Lots of other cool Spotify-scraping projects by the author at the bottom.
- gregsadetsky 7y agoThe webmaster of everynoise.com, Glenn McDonald, works at Spotify as "Data Alchemist". Good article on his work here [0]. Excerpt: "Subgenres are McDonald's business. By going over listener data and identifying patterns, McDonald and his co-workers can identify clusters of artists who might coalesce into a genre—something he’s been doing since his earliest days at the music-intelligence company The Echo Nest, which Spotify bought in 2014. Today, his work with Spotify's data helps listeners discover artists that may have been hiding in plain sight. McDonald’s “data alchemy” helps populate the Fans Also Like sections of Spotify's artist pages, as well as Daily Mix; it also provides a real-time chronicle of how music is developing and splintering into different styles." [0] https://artists.spotify.com/blog/trap-queen-and-the-data-scientist-how-a-subgenre-is-born https://artists.spotify.com/blog/trap-queen-and-the-data-sci...
- colordrops 7y agoInteresting choice of dimensions... So basically how human and how rhythmically distinct. Edit: so out of curiosity I looked at the bottom right corner and found "tanci". Odd name. Clicked on it, and it's Chinese spoken word artists. Incidentally I practice Chinese so it's perfect.
- dmitriid 7y ago> Interesting choice of dimensions... IIRC, there are 14 dimensions in total, but it’s impossible to represent all of them on a page. So he went for up-down, left-right, clusters, and colors to represent a subset of them. Source: used to work at Spotify.
- bduerst 7y agoPrevious HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10269685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10269685 It's a great music discovery service that I've used several times in the past. I've found some good artists this way, and really wish someone would build something similar for fiction books. The only downside is it's tied exclusively to Spotify.
- dmd 7y agoI wish the clustering made any sense at all. "Lullabye" and "marching band" are nearest neighbors?
- zadkey 7y agoI was disappointed that I didn't see Bagpipe Folk Dubstep. ;) Here is an example in case you thought I was making up this genre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-s8wefKlA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-s8wefKlA
- n3k5 7y agoFilthstep didn't sound anything like what I was expecting. But I didn't really know what to expect. So then I selected some genres for which I could confidently propose an exemplary piece. Ragga jungle: precisely correct. Chicago blues: nailed it. Ragtime: the very archetype. Schranz: maybe that's the intro of a track that eventually meanders into schranz, but the clip on hand is way off. Swedish pop: pretty good. Glitch hop: no way. Gospel singers: US centric, but OK. Nigerian Hip Hop: yeah that's sort of valid in the sense that 2Baba is a Nigerian hip hop producer, but that sample is neither especially Nigerian nor particularly hippy-hoppy. Electro swing: all thumbs up. Bury St Edmunds Indie: A truly sublime blend of Sudbury angst and Lavenham melancholy, virtouosly caramelised in Ipswich je-ne-sais-quoi. (Yes of course I'm joking about that last one; the combination of specific location with vague genre is just absurd.) This seems like a useful tool for discoveling new sounds, but when it comes to finding out what Polish free jazz really sounds like, I wouldn't trust it one bit.
- wilsonrocks 7y agoI believe Bury St Edmunds _does_ have an established indie scene... Not sure if it developed it's own sound though?
- DanBC 7y agoBury St Edmonds is musically interesting. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/68n44v/the-ill-fated-tale-of-bury-st-edmunds-the-british-market-town-john-peel-dubbed-the-new-seattle https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/68n44v/the-ill-fated-tale...
- AareyBaba 7y agoAmused to find Pakistani Pop right next to Christmas music and Polka.
- ryan-allen 7y agoI love this, I am going to discover so much new music!
- tzs 7y agoThe artist search is very picky. E.g., "cat ctevens" does not work. "yusuf" does not work. But "yusuf / cat stevens" works. Some of the genre memberships seem odd. Barry McGuire is bubblegum pop? As is Zager & Evans? Roy Orbison? That whole category seems to be a weird mashup of what I'd expect in bubblegum pop plus a random dump of '60s rock. For artists that appear in more than one genre, it seems to use the same sample clip for all of them, so don't be put off from checking out an artist in a genre you like because the sample doesn't fit.
- Animats 7y agoSomebody could probably write a program to generate new EDM sub-sub-genres. Somebody probably already has. Good problem for adversarial learning. Train one ML system to rate EDM, trying to match some metric like total sales. Second system tries to generate EDM which gets high scores from the first system.
- bjowen 7y agoThe title, if not the content, reminded me of this awesomeness: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=wanpSQXU_3Y https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=wanpSQXU_3Y
- Zanneth 7y agoOne of my favorite things to do is listen to music in foreign languages. (Turkish pop is my favorite. Check out Tarkan or Ismail YK if your ears are curious.) This site is a fantastic way to discover more music from around the world. Great resource!