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They will pull over.
by vamin 8y ago
They will pull over.
- jtbayly 8y agoOne would hope! lol. But seriously, how do you know this? Just curious.
- devy 8y agoAnother attack surface for self-driving cars
- bryanlarsen 8y agoSure, if you're willing to risk going to jail for impersonating a law enforcement officer.
- polski-g 8y agoPeople are. See South Africa, Brazil, etc.
- dsnuh 8y agoFair enough. I'm sure some would be willing to do that, but likely not many. I do think it is going to be very interesting to work out some of the scenarios if we do get to Johnny Cab style self driving cars.
- bryanlarsen 8y agoIf you're willing to risk jail, disrupting traffic is ridiculously easy, self-driving cars or not.
- schwap 8y agoIs fooling a computer system into thinking you are a police officer the same thing as fooling a person?
- dsnuh 8y agoThat was my line of thinking.
- adrianN 8y agoHuman drivers also pull over when people who look like the police ask them to.
- dsnuh 8y agoBy what mechanism though? I could see a big griefing opportunity if there is some automated system that allows law enforcement to signal the vehicle to pull over.
- vntok 8y agoCheck out waymo's videos; the car detects the flashing lights + reflective fabric on the police officer's uniform, as well as the shoulder and arm gestures. Griefing is as much an issue as is police impersonation right now, that is a very rare occurence that will be punished very severely when occurring.
- jellicle 8y agoHow many different police uniforms do you think there are in the world?
- vntok 8y agoHave a look[1]. Observe how they all kind of look like each other regardless of the country: shoulder pads, head cover, belt, uniform colour, formal attire, etc. Once the model knows the baseline, that is "a uniformed individual waving characteristically in front of the car", don't you think it would be quite easy to teach it with a mere few hundred pictures how local police officers look like in the current region? 1: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-different-police-uniforms-used-in-different-countries?redirected_qid=2454853#!n=12 https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-different-police-uniforms...
- notahacker 8y agoThey don't look remotely similar to me, especially considering that black, blue, navy, grey and khaki (and reflective yellow for people on roads) are not unpopular colours for clothes worn by people who are not police officers or otherwise involved in traffic direction, many of whom may have cause to move their arms in ways comparable to signals. Humans are just a lot better at gauging intention and even simple stuff like parsing the word "police" at an oblique angle Frankly even with local training, you'd still think giving law enforcement devices to stop, restart and redirect vehicles was a minimum requirement.
- gaius 8y agoHave any of the major vendors documented this? Otherwise, citation needed.
- vamin 8y ago"By working with the police department in Chandler, AZ, for example, Waymo has been able to train its cars to yield, pull over, or stop when it hears or sees sirens." [1] [1] https://www.recode.net/2017/10/15/16472896/alphabet-waymo-self-driving-law-enforcement-crashes-accidents https://www.recode.net/2017/10/15/16472896/alphabet-waymo-se...
- gaius 8y agoThanks!
- onemoresoop 8y agoAnd who will get the tickets? The car? The passengers? The manufacturer?