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And about 30% of the users life. No seriously, I wonder how much productivity is gained from using, and how much is wasted, worldwide?
by headgsaket 11y ago
And about 30% of the users life. No seriously, I wonder how much productivity is gained from using, and how much is wasted, worldwide?
- macspoofing 11y agoNot much? If it wasn't facebook, it would be something else...solitaire maybe?
- dazc 11y agoYou don't see many people walking down the street playing solitaire though.
- rorykoehler 11y agoCandy crush on the other hand...
- martin-adams 11y agoAt least you can get good at playing solitaire, but you can't really 'get good at Facebook'.
- buzzkills 11y agoThe only way to win that game is not playing at all
- morgante 11y agoTell that to "growth hackers" and "social media marketing managers."
- scrollaway 11y agoUnless you're literally mindlessly staring at known data, you're learning. Social status updates and such are essentially a game, and they teach various aspects of social politics. Dubious what useful skills most people can actually get from that but you can definitely "get good at facebook", as you put it. (And before anybody jumps on me - I hate facebook and I despise the completely fake life that comes out of the gaming aspects of facebook, but I can appreciate its values as a game designer)
- vinceguidry 11y ago> Unless you're literally mindlessly staring at known data, you're learning. You can learn doing that too. The subconscious is an amazing thing.
- Tepix 11y agoHacker News perhaps?
- lghh 11y agoIt makes it a lot easier to keep in contact with family members and to know when there are concerts or other events in the area that I'd be interested in being at. That saves me quite a bit of time.
- rogeryu 11y agoYou don't need the app for that. Just open FB in your browser from time to time. You will see all you need to keep in touch.
- lghh 11y agoOh yeah, I agree. I was just responding to what I thought was the person above me's recommendation to not use Facebook at all. I may have been incorrect in that interpretation of what they were saying, though.
- coderdude 11y agoI honestly can't answer that but I cold-turkey'd my fb account about 2 years ago and I will never look back. You have to be a god damned fool to keep them posted on your day to day life.
- pc86 11y ago> You have to be a god damned fool to keep them posted on your day to day life. Absolutely the biggest form of hyperbole I've ever seen in my entire life, bar none. Seriously though, some people use FB sparingly once or twice a day. Some people actually make money from FB or use it for marketing. There are a lot of people that get more out of it than making snarky election posts.
- coderdude 11y agoCool story. I use fb for marketing too. Who can't? Stop giving them your life story. It's not smart.
- joshmanders 11y agoWe get it, you don't use Facebook. I personally love Facebook. I keep in touch with family I can't see often. They get to see my daughter as if they live near us. I've engaged with people I would have never engaged with all because we have mutual friends, and end up growing friendships out of it. I get to share things I find interesting, my thoughts, my feelings. I get to see a deeper side of my family and friends whom also do the same. Look if your family and friends suck and all you see is "I had a bologna sandwich today" repeatedly, or that's all you can contribute, than take a look at your life and choice of peers, because using Facebook or not doesn't make or break them.
- coderdude 11y agoI came off as a jerk. Was cranky as all hell last night. Fb is actually a great way to keep in contact with your family and friends.
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- jusben1369 11y agoAll arguments for and against FB can pretty much be applied to the internet overall. Given the undeniable popularity and usage of FB I think it's pretty clear it's been a net positive on society. (I'm fine with rebuttals; just make sure your argument couldn't also be used to rebut people having access to the internet in general)
- tdkl 11y ago> All arguments for and against FB can pretty much be applied to the internet overall. At least the Internet is open and not behind a privacy threatening login. Fuck Facebook.
- coderdude 11y agoAnywhere you find people with heads up their asses you'll see pro-fb talk. Nice 180 from a few years ago HN.
- AndrewUnmuted 11y ago> All arguments for and against FB can pretty much be applied to the internet overall. I like the spirit of this idea, but I don't believe it's correct in this context. Facebook, after all, is a service that bases its experience around togetherness and being "connected" to the people you "care" about. It encourages an all-inclusive behavior from its users, instead of a selectively-inclusive, or even exclusive, behavior. This is a unique trait of the Facebook service, which much of the web absolutely did not copycat with success until Facebook's IPO. To compare Facebook and its particularly vicious UX which ruthlessly looks to capture the attention spans of the world's lowest-common-denominator, to the overall internet is an insult to people who had better plans for the internet than this.
- jusben1369 11y agoYes I think it would fail if you tried to get too literal. But the original thread was the "I wonder how much more productive our lives would or would not be without FB" It was in that broader context that I made my comment.
- tomp 11y agoWell... by doing what you enjoy, you lose productivity, but gain life. It's a trade-off that every person needs to make according to his/her desires.
- bottled_poe 11y agoWasted? Are you implying that their time might be better applied elsewhere? People should be free to do whatever they want to. If you are talking about FB on the job, well perhaps those employees haven't been given enough work.
- awjr 11y agoI found that uninstalling television also saved a lot of time or at least "stopped" me watching random crap. Anecdotally we had a 2-3 week period where the whole family had no TV/Internet access. I was quite disappointed when it all came back on and the board game nights and even the ad-hoc charades stopped. We do however have weekly game nights. I still consciously choose to only watch "planned" TV programmes.
- CaptSpify 11y agoOne of the big benefits I've seen as a cord-cutter: I've stopped mindlessly surfing. Without channels, and having to select what I want from an app, I have to decide what I want, instead of seeing "what's on". Now I still watch crap from time to time, but it have to choose it, which has made me go to it a lot less.
- clentaminator 11y agoThis pretty much highlights my main beef with the current model of broadcast television, which is that it seems designed around leading to "that question", or "What's on?". If you don't already know what you'd like to watch then perhaps you'd be better off finding something else to do that you enjoy (aside from those times when you genuinely do just want to crash and not think too much).
- SilasX 11y agoReminds me of the scene from Seinfeld when they're pitching a TV show and get asked "why would anyone watch this?" and George answers "Because it's on TV!" That is, people are just going to bounce through the major networks anyway.
- chadgeidel 11y agoI've been a cord-cutter long enough that now, instead of mindlessly surfing, I've got a backlog of so many shows I want to watch and don't have time for it seems I'm back to square one. The more things change...
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- JulianMorrison 11y agoSince ancient times it's been fashionable to diss the newest media. "This invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory" -- Socrates, on writing. Facebook, as a synecdoche for "how the hoi polloi use the internet" is just another example of this. The reality is that my Facebook is a news feed tailored to my interests and reflecting what's happening to the people I care about and as such it's useful.
- CPLX 11y agoHow do we know that Socrates said that?
- wstrange 11y agoHe posted it on his wall
- rtl49 11y agoSocrates wasn't wrong. The adoption of new media should reflect a rational analysis of its benefits and drawbacks. Writing enables us to store, transmit, and reflect upon information in ways that surpass speech. One negative consequence is that we get less practice in exercising memory, and we encounter more information than we could commit to memory in any case. Social media enables us to get current information on the doings of people whose lives interest us. One negative consequence is that the information users encounter is subject to manipulation by those who dictate the content of the website, with the result that most users have reduced intellectual autonomy. What's more, much of the information presented is not relevant to users, which wastes much of the finite attention they possess. Data collected about users can be and is used to advance interests contrary to their own. Some of these issues are intrinsic to social media as a concept, others specific to the platforms that currently dominate. Either way, it cannot reasonably be presumed that those opposed to the use of social media are simply Luddites.
- peteretep 11y agoCan you cite that exposure to written material has a negative impact on memory? It seems like an extraordinary claim.
- rloc 11y agoA lot, see that yet another recent study: http://www.talentsmart.com/articles/Multitasking-Damages-Your-Brain-and-Your-Career,-New-Studies-Suggest-2102500909-p-1.html http://www.talentsmart.com/articles/Multitasking-Damages-You... I use an Android phone that lasts consistently more than 2 days (Sony z3 compact). Of course I don't have Facebook installed...
- awesomerobot 11y agoLife isn't all about productivity, but it's an interesting question.
- themoonbus 11y agoI guess it depends on what your definition of "wasted time" is?
- bitserf 11y agoI deleted my Facebook account 4 years ago, and I still don't have enough time for everything I'm interested in. Please send help.
- Tyr42 11y agoTry installing it and deleting it again.