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9mo ago
I'm not personally offended by the inaccurate terms, more just stating what should be fairly obvious. Using accurate terms is very important in logic and reasoning, and being generally polite and respectful is also an important part of
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10mo ago
As a side note, it's pretty widely accepted that referring to humans as "male" or "female" instead of "men" and "women" in general is dehumanizing. Using it as an adjective "male athletes&qu
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10mo ago
Some of your comments seemed to be removed, but for clarification, transwomen are women and transmen are men. Why not just use those terms in general? Why say "males," when you are actually talking about transwomen, which is a mor
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10mo ago
> It is very straightforward to show that sex is defined by gametes. I read and corrected your previous comments then, and I will correct them again now. I know this is more or less what they teach in middle and high school biology, just
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10mo ago
* Edit: I missed one of your points. > Regarding your second point: that there are variations in phenotype, some of them disordered, doesn't mean that "sex is a spectrum". For DSDs, we can describe them in terms of specifi
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10mo ago
Here is the definition of sex from the Merriam-Webster dictionary: 1a: either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reprod
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11mo ago
Thanks! I'm on the biology side of things, so I tend to avoid going into gender because I don't understand it as well, but the biology seems clear enough. The gender side also makes sense to me broadly, since we have complex and v
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11mo ago
Let me see if I understand your argument. I'm not sure about several aspects, and it sounds like you have multiple arguments. [1] Sex is purely defined by gamete size. (Already incorrect, but if that makes the argument easier we can pl
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11mo ago
I think you're still missing several key points. Biological sex is more than just gametes. This isn't some weird, niche theory, this is just basic biology. Even if it were just gametes, there are still several intersex conditions.
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11mo ago
Also one more thing of note before you go into "but intersex is just error": "Errors" are important in models. Look up Type 1 and Type 2 errors. If I had a model for hair color, and it couldn't explain red hair, it
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11mo ago
Second part: Now let’s start to address some of your points. > "The whole point of female and male is to distinguish the two reproductive roles in sexually reproducing species, whether those are hermaphroditic or gonochoric. The sex
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11mo ago
My comment is too long, so I'm going to try to separate it into 2. > Your comment about "drawing an arbitrary line" doesn't really fit with how biologists see this either, as it's not arbitrary at all but is base
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11mo ago
Hi! I'm a little confused what the confusion is. Yes, talking about binary terms and using them as an abstraction and a summary is perfectly convenient, and can be useful, but that doesn't change the data. It's just a summary
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11mo ago
Sure! I think I understand what's going on here. I think we're having a few different misunderstandings, let me see if I can describe them. By "human sex" I'm referring to everything that developmentally contributes
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11mo ago
Thanks! I find all this super interesting, and I hope other people do too! It's a pretty wild world out there.
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11mo ago
Sure! It's pretty trivial. I'm going to assume at least a high-school knowledge of math, since I'm assuming you're unfamiliar with terms like bimodal distribution, categorical data, et cetera. If you're interested i
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11mo ago
This is not in line with current scientific beliefs at all, and most biologists will confirm that with you. Just like most things in biology and life in general, sex exists on a spectrum. We also distinguish between sex and gender. On the b