ymarkov

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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Good question - we actually did a benchmark recently and even with maps/search grounding it is pretty suboptimal from a end user's perspective https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47366423 For instance, we found t
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
That is a very interesting insight and thanks for sharing it. We realize that some countries might be having poor maps data, and that example is very helpful - we will take a look
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Thanks - we will keep building!
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
There is a a lot of data publicly available on the web, it can be analyzed with the derived signals stored and then re-checked periodically.
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Completely agree - we have been in constant communication with them
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Fair point on the repo - cli is in the plans and coming. We've been focused on the API
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
thanks, looking forward to that!
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
No, we are not - it is against Google's the terms of service. open_closed_status is an indicator showing if there are sufficient evidences of the closure. If place doesn't exist, then there are likely no evidence of anything rela
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
It doesn't fit into our plans of building this
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Fair point - one doesn't instantaneously dethrone Google three months after starting. Here are some benefits of our API. Google's api is recall focused as any search - it shows you all possible places even if that one you are look
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
We have models which take all of this into account when producing the verdict. For enterprise clients we emit a calibrated confidence score. With public api we decided to start simpler. Also, we are not using Google data. I’m not a lawyer,
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
That is our vision of where we want to be. There is a lot of information about the places on the public web which you analyze and cross-reference. And we started to solve this problem with validation API which can tell you if a business or
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Appreciate thinking about it, but I think there's some misunderstanding - we don't track people or movements. VOYGR validates places - for instance, we are able to answer a question if this business still open?
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
It means that there is sufficient evidence found online that this business or poi is located at that address
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Appreciate sharing this project - democratizing this data is indeed a very important step. Interesting that you settled on Haiku - did you have a chance to check flash-2.5-lite or gpt-5-nano performance?
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Indeed, we've been told about that. Hopefully, it won't be a defining moment for us as a company :)
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
It is supposed to work if you even don't include unit number or a house number is a bit off. We analyze other signals too, so if the address is a bit off, the API is still supposed to mark a place as existing
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
We are not providing opening times yet - we just check if place is permanently closed or not. But it is in the works under our experimental enrichment API (which is not yet open to public)
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Google also doesn't tell you if a place exists - it just returns the list of possible places which it thinks could be relevant. We have instructions defined for agents to onboard https://github.com/voygr-tech/dev-t
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
We are using judges with LLMs and web grounding plus manual grading. We recently did a benchmark on the LLM quality across major AI providers - we plan to open source it soon and will probably open source our API quality check benchmark too
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Thanks! Was it truly down? I have checked and I don't see any disruptions
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Thanks! Our initial API works as follows - you provide POI/business name and its address and we are telling you if it exists or not. So if you are looking to check if the plaza is existing, you just need to provide its supposed address
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
It is on par with Google Maps API, but Google gives you more data. Our terms of service are more flexible - for instance we don't require attribution and deleting our data past 30 days. And we are actively working on adding more info t
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Thanks, it is going to be fun! :)
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Both - we're building APIs ultimately designed for AI agents and LLMs that need trustworthy place data and that includes cases from enterprise to personal people's agents
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by ymarkov 6mo ago
Indeed, in the current age we need to build things for agents first. We think that the skills will primarily will be discovered through marketplaces or via web search
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Launch HN: Voygr (YC W26) – A better maps API for agents and AI apps
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