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vincko
6mo ago
It will be interesting to see which standard prevails. There are a lot of ideas in this space. WebMCP is one of them. What I am wondering: irreversible actions also need to be communicated to human users. So wouldn't a site already com
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vincko
6mo ago
It's not different from GEO. The actions we take all play into GEO.
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vincko
6mo ago
Do you mean agents not answering short specific user prompts? For those types of agents, prompt tracking is less accurate since the context of the queries is so large. But it's still relevant to understand what web searches they tend t
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vincko
6mo ago
Yes, that is correct. We help the brands, not the end user. Let me try to rephrase the line of thinking: To maximize value to the end user, the [AI search] models generally aim to be helpful. The companies building these models [OpenAI, etc
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6mo ago
There is the preselection, which depends on the fanout queries the model comes up with and the contents performance across those queries on the search index. After that content is actually assessed by the model. This paper tried different s
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vincko
6mo ago
Thank you for the feedback. We'll launch our new site soon where this is fixed.
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vincko
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Do you doubt the statement on how to maximize usefulness? Or do you mean that the companies behind the models might not optimize (exclusively) for usefulness to the user? I do share doubts about the latter.
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vincko
6mo ago
I get it, there is a lot of worry about slop. We think about it like this: all of these agents will be most useful to users if they provide valuable answers. So they will be looking for valuable content for grounding their answer. There are
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We currently simply integrate with your Google Analytics and filter by Source. This tends to be a lower bound, since it's not always set correctly. Coming from some of the native apps, users might be categorized as direct visitors. The
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True, it is very competitive. Our view on Peec is that it is an analytics solution. They recently did launch an actions feature. But they do not take any actions (yet). Creating content takes a lot of resources. And agencies are expensive.
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6mo ago
That's a super valid question, we get it a lot. There are a lot of overlaps. In our view Profound and Airops are aimed at existing marketing teams. Our goal is to be more hands-off, so you don't need a team. With many of our clien
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Launch HN: Sitefire (YC W26) – Automating actions to improve AI visibility
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