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tjr
7mo ago
I don't think it's quite at trillions to zero, but I do think the numbers are way, way out of balance so far. I'm still at the point where, if AI disappeared tomorrow, I would be, at worst, mildly inconvenienced.
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7mo ago
Its also worth noting that if you can create a business with an LLM, so can everyone else. One possibility may be that we normalize making bigger, more complex things. In pre-LLM days, if I whipped up an application in something like 8 ho
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Fair; that was an example instance. People interested in “Free software” rather than “open source” seem to often favor the GPL, though other licensing options also count as “free software”. But in any case, the question really refers to, ca
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7mo ago
I’ve seen different opinions. Can LLM-generated software be licensed under the GPL?
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7mo ago
I see AI coding as something like project management. You could delegate all of the tasks to an LLM, or you could assign some to yourself. If you keep some for yourself, there’s a possibility that you might not churn out as much code as qui
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7mo ago
Go enough shoulders down, and someone had to have been the first giant.
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There has long been debate that software development is not even an engineering discipline at all, because it lacks certain characteristics from "real world engineering". I have worked with software mostly in aerospace, and I beli
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One of the main points of the GPL was to prevent software from being siphoned up and made part of proprietary systems. I personally disagree with the rulings thus far that AI training on copyrighted information is "fair use", not
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7mo ago
Is your proposition that programmers are now incapable of writing code?
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7mo ago
I don't see why it's not possible. In your example scenario, it sounds like Bob is vibe-coding a project in assembly language, and then using an existing assembler to create the final binary? I have not tried it, but I would imagi
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7mo ago
As described above, I think with AI coding, our role shifts from "programmer" to "project manager", but even as a project manager, you can still choose to delegate some tasks to yourself. Whether if you want to do the ha
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Most of my career has been as an individual engineer, but the past few years I have been a project manager. I find this to be very much like using AI for coding. Which also makes me refute the idea that AI coding is just another rung up on
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7mo ago
I wonder how much more it would take Anthropic to make CCC on par with, or even better than, GCC.
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I’m glad cheap stuff exists. Sometimes I really do need something quickly, and borderline-disposable quality is good enough. But I also want the option to buy better than that. I installed some drywall a few years ago. I plan to install a r
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Will the agents also be the ones using the software?
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7mo ago
What compiler accepts cash as input?
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ESR: Comes the news that Anthropic has vibecoded a C compiler
(twitter.com)
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Maybe. This book from 1990 https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262526401/artificial-intelligen... envisions a future of AI assistance that looks not too far off from today.
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Right. I work in aerospace software, and I do not know if this option would ever be on the table. It certainly isn't now. So I think this question needs to be asked in the context of particular projects, not as an industry-wide yes or
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7mo ago
I think that's the question. Is a programmer expected to ever touch the source code? Or will AI -- and AI alone -- update the code that it generated? Not entirely unlike other code generation mechanisms, such as tools for generating HT
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Maybe AI was driving his car.
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7mo ago
Delegation, yes. I do not see LLM coding as another step up on the ladder of programming abstraction. If your project is in, say, Python, then by using LLMs, you are not writing software in English; you are having an LLM write software for
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Sometimes determinism is exactly what one wants. For avionics software, being able to claim complete equivalence between two builds (minus an expected, manually-inspected timestamp) is used to show that the same software was used / pre
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People often compare working with AI agents to being something like a project manager. I've been a project manager for years. I still work on some code myself, but most of it is done by the rest of the team. On one hand, I have more ba
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In Soviet Russia, this thread brings Slashdot back to YOU!
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It's not illegal for me to drive from New York to San Francisco on Interstate 80. But if I were able to endlessly duplicate myself and my car, about a million of me could hog the entire country-wide highway. Not sure if even that would
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Imagine if RMS could have just vibe-coded a new printer driver.
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So far, very little. Per corporate policy -- in the name of safety and legal reasons -- the most extensive public uses of AI, like vibe coding and agentic systems, aren't really options. The most common usage I have seen is more like c
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What would be some examples of some current software products for which you expect the game is up? Are there any software products that you think will survive?
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what are the kinds of tests do people write in other areas of the industry? Aerospace here. Roughly this would be typical: - comprehensive requirements on the software behavior, with tests to verify those requirements. Tests are automated
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