timid_oshima

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by timid_oshima 4y ago
I’m simply very curious about the subject, it’s super important :)! Given that, I’m also frustrated with what seems like a popular lack of critical thought and curiosity on the specifics. In these comments, when I’ve talked about an intelli
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
What we’ve been doing has produced a lot of impressive stuff, but not intelligence, has it? Again, hard to tell without a good definition.
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
We must improve this thing so it can finally tell us definitively what we’re building :)
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
The person you originally replied to and I disagree that we have any real, practical definition. I can recognize what humans and to an extent animals do as intelligent, but haven’t seen a definition that separates that intelligent behavior
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
How can we expect anything of intelligence (the criteria for testing) if we can’t define it to begin with?
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
That’s a good start, but doesn’t help us since even the most basic programs can fit that definition and are not what we mean when we say AGI. I have yet to see anything approaching a useful definition of intelligence across several discussi
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
Ok, I’ll give you the lightbulb point :). But we can hardly define intelligence, let alone “entirely understand” it. A child could give a good , practical definition of fire and manipulate it skillfully thousands of years ago. Not so much u
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
Grog could define fire in a very real way even back then, which is how he knew he’d so easily created it . It is hard for us to even know intelligence (the one we mean in AGI) when we see it, much less create it, no?
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
Where could I find a good definition of intelligence? At least the intelligence aimed for when we talk about general ai?
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
That sounds a bit early - whats your source? This one says at least mid 19th century for not practical electric lights https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-light-bulb But either way, is knowing the electron knowing
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
What are other examples of things we engineer before knowing what they are? I’m honestly having trouble thinking of any. And I think it’s a shame we haven’t considered what the limits are on “intelligence” very much. Knowing them has been i
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
In this case, it’s not so much the mechanisms of pharma we wouldn’t know, but what it is we’re even trying to cure - not having a definition of the disease or it’s symptoms and yet trying to engineer a cure would be pretty insane.
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by timid_oshima 4y ago
Hadn’t it been thoroughly studied and understood for over 100 years at that point? Ben Franklin was studying it, after all.