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throw-10-8
11mo ago
Great, do you use their video conferencing (Talk?) at that scale?
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11mo ago
Yeah I tested it out with the hetzner app on their smallest dedicated server and it ran fine. Is storage share the managed service?
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11mo ago
What does your usage look like? My use would be about 30 heavy daily users, another hundred sporadic. Mostly doc editing and video calls. What kind of hosting infra are you using? Hetzner seems popular. Any major recent security concerns, i
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11mo ago
He mentions nextcloud, has anyone been self-hosting this for a small org with 100-200 users?
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11mo ago
They spend a lot of money on marketing.
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11mo ago
No, there is an entire school of thinking that advocates the exact opposite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
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11mo ago
multiple other comments sharing my experience and expanding on it.
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11mo ago
See the various other comments for concrete examples of why nextjs sucks and the team at vercel is incompetent when it comes to auth, middleware, caching, and just generally maintaining a usable framework without brutal migrations and api b
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11mo ago
Agreed, its become its own terrarium like ecosystem at this point.
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11mo ago
Didn't Meta donate $1m to Trumps bribery fund?
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11mo ago
No and I say it's actually the exact opposite. Its gotten so bad that when I read FE dev I interpret it as "React Dev".
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11mo ago
I was pretty involved in their stack back in the day, it was a good alternative to Django at the time for simple plug and play admin apps, and to this day i think they had the simplest OAuth setup of any framework I've used. The real i
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11mo ago
My experience is that a lot of people on this forum are afraid to voice negative opinions on tools they use at work. Seen a lot of people in my professional circles shit on Next/Vercel over beers, but then go to work every day and bang
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11mo ago
so instead of learning a useful transferrable skill they talked to their magic mirror and got an output that approaches correctness without the necessary knowledge to verify it or maintain it going forward without their magic mirror. To quo
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11mo ago
Not at all, they are two different critiques. 1. Vercel / Next are complete technical trash wrapped in egregious vendor lock-in. This directly influences their desire to steer the react foundation in a direction that aligns with their
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11mo ago
By hand? Ok Grandpa. I only vibe code in my Metaverse open office by thinking with my Beta NeuralLink.
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11mo ago
i make throwaways on this site regularly and use them until i say something to piss dang off and get shadowbanned. your comment would be a lot more interesting if you attempted to pose a counterpoint besides "BOT!".
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11mo ago
I'm a non-american and I don't trust their government as a steward any longer. I've diversified into international markets that are more resistant to the whims of a dictator and his feeble attempts at monetary policy. Also an
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11mo ago
the US dollar is down over 10% since they elected a fascist, no stop order for that.
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My "favorite" is when it makes a mistake and then tries gaslight you into thinking it was your mistake and then confidently presents another incorrect solution. All while having the tone of an over caffeinated intern who has only
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11mo ago
That is known as "ignorant bliss".
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11mo ago
Their financial interest in react is less blatant. Vercel wants to own React, its been obvious about it for years now.
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11mo ago
This is the vercelization of react peeking through, that people even associate react with ssr is an anti-pattern.
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11mo ago
It is also my opinion that 5 years from now Vercel will be out of business and their customers will have moved on the next hype driven VC cash laundry.
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11mo ago
I don't use nextjs because it's a steaming pile of unmaintainable black-box shit. The CEO's politics are just icing on the cake.
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11mo ago
The 3D printer analogy doesn't hold up though, that implies design, engineer, and knowledge of your constraints. It's more like a pachinko machine that rewards the user with house like objects that may or may not work. If the user
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Peak react was React 16 imo.
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It's a discussion about Vercel and he's the CEO. If he didn't want political commentary being brought into discussions about the company he leads he should have used his big CEO brain to determine that a photo op with a highl
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11mo ago
I don't think it's out of line to refuse to support companies where the CEO buddy up to fascists.
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