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4mo ago
Mozilla has had the unusual situation of having an enormous revenue stream from Google. It is reasonable in that situation to build some adjacent things that support the mission. MDN is amazing, for example! Rust was too! I do feel Mozilla
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Like we always have. See https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/contributing/review-p... for the basics; but it's all written down in ReadTheDocs. Like most large projects, we triage every new PR, and ma
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There's new long-lived connection support in Zulip 12.0 that will enable the mobile app to do a lot better for startup in organizations with multiple 10ks of users. I think it's expected to be enabled in the mobile apps in the nex
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As we do our best to explain in the post: The Zulip project is very much not being annihilated. There are 220 people from all over the world who have contributed 20 or more commits to Zulip, and thousands more who've contributed code,
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Yeah I've often had the same thought! Ideas are very much appreciated. I do like our current "organized team chat" quite a bit better than the original "group chat", which would often result in confusion with WhatsA
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Historically, Zulip blog posts have actually gotten more engagement when they landed on the Hacker News homepage during off-peak times for regular news (After business hours and weekends) than when we've published them on weekdays morn
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For those looking for more context on Zulip, we did a major release a couple weeks ago: https://blog.zulip.com/2026/04/27/zulip-12-0-released/ .
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I think the author misunderstands what is good about Python. One of the big strengths of Python is legibility: most developers find it easy to read and understand. If you are planning to have humans verify the code you're using in prod
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It's interesting to me that the page doesn't describe the size of the rust binary (relevant for mobile app use cases where you would need to add the Rust binary to your app) or performance. The webpage also does read like it was a
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Funding to pay the core team (via revenue/grants/VC) requires a lot of leadership attention for any independent company that is developing an open-source project as its main activity. Yet more leadership attention goes into other
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We can and should advocate for preserving sideloading. But boycotting a wonderful public-benefit program that Google has funded for 20 years over this sort of product policy issue seems crazy to me. Sure, GSoC does improve Google's bra
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Zulip 12.0 Released
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To me, it seems like the Pro tier is priced for using Sonnet a lot or Opus a little, and Max for using Opus a lot. So that seems about what you should expect.
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I find it interesting that folks are so focused on cost for AI models. Human time spent redirecting AI coding agents towards better strategies and reviewing work, remains dramatically more expensive than the token cost for AI coding, for an
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The original blog post for Mythos did lay out this safeguard testing strategy as part of their plan.
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If your revenue doubles every month, then in the first month where you make $2.5B, your total lifetime revenue has been $5B ($2.5B this month, $1.25B the month before, etc. is a simple geometric series). But your current revenue run rate fo
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Just about every UI component has been redesigned over the last two years. So your experience may be different these days :).
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I lead the Zulip project and I'm not aware of any common crash issues with either our server or any of our apps. Can you share details on what you're experiencing with us? https://zulip.com/help/contact-suppor
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I recommend that anyone who is responsible for maintaining the security of an open-source software project that they maintain ask Claude Code to do a security audit of it. I imagine that might not work that well for Firefox without a lot of
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What makes you want to believe the Trump Administration when it claims it doesn't want to do domestic mass surveillance?
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An organization character really shows through when their values conflict with their self-interest. It's inspiring to see that Anthropic is capable of taking a principled stand, despite having raised a fortune in venture capital. I don
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It's an interesting idea. The current endowment size of less than $1M is immaterial; the question with a project like this will always be how it is able to raise capital. A way something like this could be interesting is if founders st
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I feel like the articles on this have been very negative ... but aren't the Anthropic promises on safety following this change still considerably stronger than those made by the competing AI labs?
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I encourage you to stop by and report things with screenshots/screencasts so we can get these fixed. We were able to reproduce the search icon centering issue in mobile web, which is being fixed here: https://chat.zulip.org&
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This article looks rather rushed -- the description of Zulip is not accurate, and I suspect that folks working on the other products may feel the same way about how their projects are described. I lead the Zulip project, and I'd like t
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Zulip web is one of the best modern chat apps for intermittently offline use, and we put a lot of effort into making it that way. For example, if you had it open on your laptop with a window open, suspend it, and open it up on a plane, you
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Bringing the recent conversations view for mobile is one of our main goals for next couple months!
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Nothing is certain in this world, but I don't think that means one should give up and just use megacorp software. And Zulip is specifically designed by some very capable people to be resilient. While we can mess up future versions, but
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Are you using iOS? Safari 26 has several changes that break the mobile web app layout, and it's proven quite difficult to fix. I'd suggest using the actual mobile app on iOS if you've upgraded to Safari 26. (My understanding
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For what it's worth, essentially every main view surface was visually redesigned over the course of the last 2 years. So while I can't promise you'll like the new design, it certainly isn't the same as it was 2 years ago
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