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sudodevnull
1mo ago
The fact you don't know my name is the funniest part of this given you just slopped a whole video about me and my framework. Wow.
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
Because you are actively hurting projects that do care
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
I'm the author of Datastar and I find this response hilarious given you didn't reach out to me about correctness in public or private. Your content is full of incorrect statements. I even posted in the comments of the video to try
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
HTMX only does GET, doesn't to expo backoff, etc. Let alone the fact you need more extensions. Try it before claiming victory maybe?
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
the true irony is the article is about datastar, never change hackernews
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
things like datastar handle this automatically for you
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sudodevnull
1mo ago
ai slop
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sudodevnull
2mo ago
HTMX v4 doesn't actually address what's makes Datastar work at it's core. It at best it copies some of the broad strokes of the API but not in a robust it efficient spec compliant way
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sudodevnull
3mo ago
nice try cultist, ngmi
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4mo ago
You're absolutely right!
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4mo ago
Datastar btw
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sudodevnull
5mo ago
your understanding is very wrong. please read the docs or better yet the actual code.
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sudodevnull
7mo ago
Really powerful and interesting approach!
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7mo ago
This is well known. You can have full reactivity without being JS heavy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W6Lr1hRgXo is a perfect example
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8mo ago
he is out of line, but he is right
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9mo ago
It's a direct support in binary for the primitives available in JSON. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
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9mo ago
you have a point https://x.com/htmx_org/photo
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10mo ago
So much misunderstanding of the details without actually trying it. I said clearly if you have metrics to back up claims great! Otherwise it's pure FUD which goes against actual metrics in the wild. Back up your assertions with actua
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10mo ago
Look at any Datastar demo, updates in microseconds above half RTT. Look at Andrew's demo above. We are actually working with Joel on possibly moving our already fastest approach to morphing to a version of his morphlex work. Actuall
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10mo ago
I make technical decisions based off of metrics. Last time we talked as soon as I showed you flamegraphs you yeeted. If you think D* version of morph is just idiomorph... please, make charts that actually show that to be the case.
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11mo ago
You are right! without HTMX 1 and the choices for future dev there would be no Datastar! If you think having a full framework while still allowing super easy way to make whatever API as you see fit is putting someone down, idk, ngmi.
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11mo ago
I hope you realize literally everything is a plug-in. The core is < 4kb. Also Datastar is literally smaller than HTMX so this is already kinda funny
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11mo ago
The power in Datastar is YOU get to choose what plugins you use to build the API you what... want data-get, it's a few lines away from being yours! You can rebuild all of HTMX in Datastar, not the other way around. https://
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11mo ago
Oh noes, we agree on stuff. I don't know what to do now... stare at feet.
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11mo ago
So you can support JSON while still being REST. For example, Datastar supports merging in HTML, JS, JSON into the current view of a resource. They work together to keep the resource state unified versus polling. In general the Datastar w
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11mo ago
You are right! If this is enough to put you off the project then I hope you find one that aligns with your ideals.
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11mo ago
hey Alex, I hope you are well. Datastar has had direct support for req/rep of HTML, JS, JSON while still morphing for a quite a while. They allow you to go as coarse as you want. Give the size and ability to choose what plugins you
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11mo ago
To be fair, the idiomorph work came from Datastar and Turbo community efforts. There is a whole podcast about Micah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrtBBqyDrJU&pp=ygUOZGF0YXN0Y... . Latent has been a huge force behind
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11mo ago
As the Datastar author, I'd approve this effort
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sudodevnull
11mo ago
It's a toy example, it's suppose to show that you can be doing N things and then redirect. If you have a normal redirect immediately, just do a 307 or whatever.
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