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starbuzz
8y ago
Duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17132823
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starbuzz
8y ago
^ This
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starbuzz
8y ago
The irony is you are the extremist for thinking HN is full of extremists! :) Also, library size !== mediocrity at all. No one builds an unreasonably large framework on purpose either.
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8y ago
> So far, the Infinite monkey theorem is just giving us an infinite number of javascript frameworks, and no Shakespeare Not even funny IMO. This is the kind of toxic comment that don't motivate progress in this community.
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8y ago
Hyperapp is not optimized to be the fastest framework at the expense of worse developer experience. Having said that, we're definitely working on improving our runtime performance (see https://github.com/hyperapp/h
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8y ago
I meant the benchmark is using an older version of Hyperapp. https://github.com/krausest/js-framework-benchmark/tree/mast... The js-framework-benchmarks is very much maintained and actively developed. It'
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8y ago
If all goes according to plan, it will look even more like Elm in the next major release (2.0).
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8y ago
Elm is for anyone. I love Elm. "for the rest of us" is a common English language idiom/phrase. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/41687/meaning-of... I know the idiom mostly from For Dummie
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8y ago
Hyperapp and Web Components is a great combo, especially because they can help with the problem of maintaining local component state, not a feature of Hyperapp.
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8y ago
Yes. Not IE8, though.
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8y ago
Hyperapp will be a lot more Elm-like in a future release, see this too: https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp/issues/672
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8y ago
HyperTerminal
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starbuzz
8y ago
I replied to another similar comment but the TL;DR is that both are solving different things. Preact is a React 15 clone. Hyperapp is basically Elm in JavaScript.
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8y ago
This is a crucial aspect of Hyperapp that often goes unnoticed because simply no one in their sane judgment expects it.
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8y ago
Surely there are many more ways.
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8y ago
Oh, Mithril! All folk desired it. This one is great too.
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8y ago
This is an old benchmark, we're in the same ballpark as React now. Hyperapp is also not just a virtual DOM, but also a state management "all-in-one" kind of thing.
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8y ago
Hyperapp has a great API, it's easy to use and it's 1 kB.
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8y ago
Some of those results refer to HyperTerminal, the Electron-based terminal app. Other results refer to Hyperapp-like libraries (not Hyperapp). The most recent submission related to Hyperapp was 8 months ago and Hyperapp has come a long way s
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8y ago
Hyperapp is based on virtual DOM and yes, I guess you could say it's inspired by Hyperscript in the same way as all virtual DOM based libraries or frameworks.
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8y ago
Hyperapp and Web Components are a great pair.
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8y ago
Hyperapp is Elm for the rest of us. I wouldn't compare it to React as they are solving slightly different problems. Hyperapp's state management is built-into the framework. In this way, Hyperapp is a tad more "high-level"
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8y ago
I guess look? :) There's a book though: https://booth.pm/ja/items/825889 (Japanese)
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8y ago
Because Preact and Hyperapp are solving slightly different problems. Hyperapp is Elm-like state management (and soon effects and subscriptions in 2.0) on top of an ultra-lightweight virtual DOM diff engine. Preact is a React 15 clone at bes
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8y ago
Maybe there's simply nothing else to say.
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8y ago
That, no one can beat.
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Show HN: HyperApp – 1k JavaScript framework for building web applications
(github.com)
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