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The Internet's Honeymoon Is Over: Services Without Servers [video]
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sanity
4mo ago
How does someone "steal" the name of their own project?
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sanity
4mo ago
It's clearly an effective label, otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used. The real objection is that supporters of the ideology dislike the characterization embedded in the term.
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sanity
4mo ago
Most people don't know the academic umbrella term, but if you ask for examples of "woke", it's usually pretty obvious they're referring to Critical Social Justice ideology and its associated norms. People can argue
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sanity
4mo ago
"Woke" refers to Critical Social Justice ideology, hope that helps.
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sanity
4mo ago
I'm not sure what you mean, Freenet is at least as decentralized as bittorrent.
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sanity
4mo ago
The two systems aren't that different in this regard, both replicate data along request paths. In both systems data will tend to cluster on peers close to the data's location because otherwise requests couldn't find it. The m
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sanity
4mo ago
> I win this argument, and you lose. lol
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sanity
4mo ago
What is the issue? Please be specific.
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4mo ago
And? The new Freenet provides a menu of options for anonymity which is strictly better than imposing the same (imperfect) anonymity solution on everyone.
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sanity
4mo ago
If you have a point to make you should make it.
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4mo ago
> First, thank you for creating this project. You're welcome :) > My question is whether freenet is designed to be resistant for active adversaries with deep packet inspection capability, particularly like the Chinese firewall th
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4mo ago
It refers to Critical Social Justice ideology. There are entire books, academic papers, and debates about it from across the political spectrum.
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sanity
4mo ago
Fair enough, I misremembered the timeline. My broader point was about identitarianism and ideological conformity, regardless of what terminology I used at the time.
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4mo ago
Gnutella was decentralized like Freenet, but it's broadcast search approach limited scalability relative to Freenet's "small-world" approach which can scale indefinitely.
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4mo ago
Appreciate the suggestion. It's often difficult to know where to start when explaining a project like this. The freenet-git work is quite recent but we do feature River, our group chat app, fairly prominently on our installation page[1
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4mo ago
> Why would I answer that when you already said one statement being wrong doesn't matter? I never said that.
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4mo ago
> The fact that evidence is not provided, if anything, is an indication of potential wrong doing. No, that's not how evidence works. You're starting from the assumption of wrongdoing and then treating the lack of evidence as co
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4mo ago
Apparently you follow him a lot more closely than I do, nonetheless I stand by my point even if I might use different words today.
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4mo ago
And yet I still haven't seen anyone explain how the goals actually differ. Interestingly, there seems to be very little overlap between the people giving substantive technical feedback and the people most upset about a 3-year-old namin
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4mo ago
It isn't "natural" to make baseless accusations based on zero evidence.
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4mo ago
The personal insults really lend credibility to your argument.
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4mo ago
I didn't bring in anything, someone dug up and linked to 3-year-old out of context posts to a mailing list - I explained the context.
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4mo ago
Someone digs up obscure 3-year-old posts to a defunct mailing list and suddenly I'm a "culture war crusader" sigh
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4mo ago
If we're doing archaeology, my original 1999 paper was called "A Distributed Decentralized Information Storage and Retrieval System".
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4mo ago
> Though reusing the name for an entirely different project with a different codebase is disingenuous to say the least. Same project, same goals, and it's not even the first time we started with a fresh codebase - we did it in 2008.
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4mo ago
> the _point_ of freenet was that you could anonymously share/store information. As you can with the new Freenet, you just get a menu of options instead of being forced to use a one-size-fits-all approach to anonymity.
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4mo ago
> The question was "How are the goals different?" A question you haven't answered.
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4mo ago
> Please explain how "the new freenet" tackles censorship resistance. Primarily through the same core mechanism as the original Freenet design: decentralization and relaying requests through multiple peers such that no individu
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4mo ago
> What are the current limitation of this system? Slow bootstrapping, high latency, large disk usage? I'd say not working on mobile is probably the main one right now. Peers bootstrap into the network in seconds typically, and contr
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