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Show HN: Open-source turn detection model for voice AI
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2y ago
Yeah, that would be really handy too.
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2y ago
This is very cool! I’ve wanted something like CodeMic for a long time. Back when I was at Twitter, we used Review Board for code reviews (this was in 2009, before GH was a thing for most companies). It was tough to thoughtfully review large
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You got it! Hope you have some fun with it. :)
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Haven’t played Codenames in a long while, but made this 8 years ago to play with family and friends on TVs. Right in time for the holidays! demo: https://dsa.github.io code: https://github.com/dsa/dsa.github
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Haha yup, I’m that Russ. Really appreciate your kind words. <3 I’ll shoot you an email and let’s chat!
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This is super cool. One neat idea: when I'm in offline mode, I can clone my voice, provide some context data/sources, and have my AI clone answer calls for me. It can give me a summary of conversations it had each day and allow m
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2y ago
Heh, actually I'm pretty sure I've come across your X profile before. :) You're definitely in a small minority of folks with a deep(er) understanding of WebRTC.
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You really don’t need to know about WebRTC at all when you use LiveKit. That’s largely thanks to the SDKs abstracting away all the complexity. Having good SDKs that work across every platform with consistent APIs is more valuable than the S
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Doesn’t sound right. I’d love to dig into this some more. Would you mind shooting me a DM on X? @dsa
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2y ago
Field CTO — hi @Sean-Der :wave: Fractional CTO sounds like a disaster lol
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Which components feel ad hoc? In most real applications, the agent has additional logic (function calling, RAG, etc) than simply relaying a stream to the model server. In those cases, you want it to be a separate service/component that
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There’s Ultravox as well (from one of the creators of WebRTC): https://github.com/fixie-ai/ultravox Their model builds a speech-to-speech layer into Llama. Last I checked they have the audio-in part working and they’re
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There’s a ton of complexity under the “relatively simple use case” when you get to a global, 200M+ user scale.
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50% human speaking at $0.06/minute of tokens 50% AI speaking at $0.24/minute of tokens we (LiveKit Cloud) charge ~$0.0005/minute for each participant (in this case there would be 2) So blended is $0.151/minute
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We had our playground ( https://playground.livekit.io ) up for a few days using our key. Def racked up a $$$$ bill!
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2y ago
I had no idea! <3 Thank you for sharing this, made my weekend.
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2y ago
It's using the same model/engine. I don't have knowledge of the internals, but a different subsystem/set of dedicated resources though for API traffic versus first-party apps. One thing to note is there is no separate TT
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Show HN: Open source framework OpenAI uses for Advanced Voice
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It’s insanely fast. Here’s an AI voice assistant I built that uses it: https://cerebras.vercel.app
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Here’s an AI voice assistant we built this weekend that uses it: https://x.com/dsa/status/1828481132108873979?s=46&t=uB6padbn...
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Ultravox: open source audio-to-audio LLM
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LiveKit Agents, which OpenAI uses in voice mode is also open source: https://github.com/livekit/agents
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But we don't handle interruptions yet, that's some cool stuff @yanyan_evie!
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3y ago
We recently made it a lot easier to build your own KITT too: https://github.com/livekit/agents
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Show HN: Agents – Open source framework for realtime multimodal AI
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100%. My dad was an electrical engineer in the 70s and 80s and ended up transitioning to sales, given that it paid much more.
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Zoom does use a custom protocol. This is why it doesn’t work nearly as well when you take a call in the browser client. Not because WebRTC isn’t up to the task, but because Zoom hasn’t invested in it. Ignoring costs, while having someone ho
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You can do that with LiveKit Egress: https://github.com/livekit/egress
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HLS is a client-driven protocol, so it has high-scale but variable latency. You could build a mostly one-way webinar experience using it, but definitely not a conference call experience. The primary issue with traditional WebRTC media serve
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