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robinsoh
4y ago
> Lab126 created some of the first e-ink technology, right? Is the Kindle, or e-ink screens, or e-ink patents, the worst thing ever... or is there something else I should know about in this space? There's a lot to unpack in that sen
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robinsoh
4y ago
> The fact that almost everyone wants e-Ink technology, but e-Ink prices still are still really high [2][3] leads me to believe that either there are still patents at play that prevent competition from rising up, or that the competition
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robinsoh
4y ago
That looks like a non-answer to me. That post doesn't give any verifiable facts. Repeating it just shows a lack of desire for accurate information.
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robinsoh
4y ago
> Seriously, we have to re-think patents. The amount of money all that rent-seeking crap is costing societies each year is absurd, and not just in payments to trolls, but also stifled progress - think of stuff like e-Ink that's bare
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4y ago
> I determined they were happy and eager because I spent each evening with them eating and watching soccer. I was down there during Christmas, and Liat airlines happened to go on strike so I was stranded there for 3 additional days. They
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robinsoh
4y ago
> It was a British project management firm and it was the first and only time I ever experienced anything like that. It wouldn't be the most ideal situation for me, but they seem eager and happy to be there. What was the name of the
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robinsoh
4y ago
> It's incredibly difficult to find skilled tradesman in the Caribbean that will show up sober each day and perform quality work. There's a lot to unpack in that sentence. Care to elaborate?
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robinsoh
4y ago
> From what I know, e-ink tech is and has been very feasible, but is on hold since it's under patent. The company that holds the patent is notoriously slow to reach any licensing deals in a timely fashion to bring a product to marke
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robinsoh
4y ago
> In the Ancient Greek times the Olympic Games were an opportunities for friends an enemies to come together and have FUN! Not sure if you're being serious or being sarcastic. Any evidence for your claim? The ancient Olympics (as th
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robinsoh
4y ago
> I mean the .fw/.ihex files, you have really not seen them? Not from E Ink. .fw is from Freescale. Never seen any .ihex E Ink waveform data file. Could you point to an actual example since you seem to imply it is very common? >
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robinsoh
4y ago
> The only thing I can verify myself is that waveform data from e-ink is overzealously copyrighted and protected, Could you share some evidence for this and exactly what you mean by "waveform data"? Thank you.
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robinsoh
4y ago
You're clearly mischaracterizing my post history to push your narrative instead of providing useful data for this discussion. Your communication style is abrasive enough to make me stop responding to you. Thank you.
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robinsoh
4y ago
> as always absence of evidence doesn't really mean much. My issue is that there's folks repeatedly saying confidently that there's a patent issue. Which I initially thought was real, and genuinely asked thinking they'
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robinsoh
4y ago
Here we find ourselves again, still without any answer about which patents and what the actual issue is. If you're attempting to initiate a thread about 'communication style' then I'll respectfully wait until we get some
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robinsoh
4y ago
You made a claim that patents are blocking progress in the display industry. When I asked you for evidence of that, you've become hostile and turned the thread into an unproductive interaction. That's my genuine observation of thi
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robinsoh
4y ago
> That is quite a jumble of overlapping / inter-locking patents. The goal is to prevent competition using similar technology. It looks effective. And to answer your next question, no I'm not in the display industry, So you'
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robinsoh
4y ago
> It's impossible to respond -- it just makes assertions that are impossible to verify, and without throwing any sources. I have to say this is ridiculous. You're making a claim that patents are blocking progress. When I ask wh
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robinsoh
4y ago
> And people have given you some very detailed answers, which you never seem to respond constructively to. Could you provide a link to where you see that? I disagree with that characterization. I should also point out that still, even i
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robinsoh
4y ago
> the patents on e-ink really are holding the technology back while preventing affordable access Once again. Which patent? Which technology? All of them? I'm left convinced that you're not basing your claim on evidence, but ins
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4y ago
> you have interrogated any poster who was ever mentioned patent problems, and demanded that they provide you with sources. It is not clear why they are required to do that. OP made a claim. I asked for basic evidence. If that's int
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4y ago
> The last I saw, it is indeed a complex patent and licensing issue. What do you mean by "last I saw"? You are working in the display industry?
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robinsoh
4y ago
> Finally, I seem to remember that there were a bunch of patents in the way. Remember? Meaning you worked in the display industry? I work in the display industry. I've never heard anything like what you describe, except on HN commen
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robinsoh
4y ago
Could you state clearly that you are not an industry insider. You simply made a claim that patents were being used to block progress, but had no specific evidence for it. Correct? Very simple and allows readers to form their own conclusion
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robinsoh
4y ago
OK. And you've not responded to the simple question of which patent you were referring to. That makes it clear of your 'substantive'ness and again is consistent with what I've observed on HN about this type of comments.
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robinsoh
4y ago
> If you have a specific comment that discusses the objections to the e-ink patent encumbrance concept, please link them or make them again here. You seem to be intentionally engaging in a circular argument. The parent post said "af
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robinsoh
4y ago
> but none with a link to the specific explanation you have in mind. If you happen to know of a reference, it's a courtesy to others to provide it directly. It is unclear what exactly you want explained to you. Or what reference you
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> Because those were simply phenomenal. I have two and I've never had a display quite their equal in direct sunlight. That's odd. I've had and evaluated the XO-1 using Jepsen's displays and found them to be of low qua
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robinsoh
4y ago
> after present patents expire. Which specific patents are you referring to? If you can't answer that question without googling "eink patents", then like many others who've made this claim on HN you're not in the
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robinsoh
4y ago
> Imagine where electronic ink displays could be today if E Ink wasn't such a terrible steward of the initial technology. What do you mean? Any data or evidence for that?
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robinsoh
4y ago
> I'm shocked anyone would buy something from Nutanix. Why? The alternative competitors like VMware are better? I'm not up to date on the details but perhaps you may want to elaborate. Thanks. http://techrights.org&#
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