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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   A couple of things here: - Intellij IDEA with the Cursive extension is very popular outside of emacs (I've met more clojure developers who use IDEs than those who don't.) - Clojure uses the error handling mechanisms of the target
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   I think Rich's point may be specific to Java switch statements and their limitations. (I know he's familiar with MLs, but I would imagine his frame of reference is mostly colored by Java's control structures.) The idiomatic
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   I have noticed that our developers coming from javascript pretty much exclusively feel that way (and tend to write sharper UIs.) The ones who come from the JVM and feel more emboldened to write more frontend code thanks to reagent write UI
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   As a person who has and currently does work professionally in clojure (at multiple all-clojure shops): The smart engineer effect is extremely overblown. You will hire smarter-than-average engineers, but with a caveat that no one talks abou
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   This is not what I meant by maintainable. The companies I've programmed clojure in were sizable and bet on it for their entire stack, and hired very sharp senior people to work on them. Even there, the projects suffered so much to hit
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   This absolutely matches my experience as a full time Clojure dev at multiple companies. Leadership is desperate to replace the code with something more maintainable. It's gotten bad enough that I will switch languages for my next job
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   I'll try re-frame-test, thanks! If it doesn't do something like `(with-redefs [re-frame.db/app-db (reagent/atom {})] ...)` it is still open to this bug, though. Because the call to `dispatch` happens inside of a callba
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   Three things that would make re-frame better, if you want them: - A supported/blessed way to switch out the entire app-db entirely for the purposes of testing - Use of symbols rather than namespaced keywords for function dispatch - Doc
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   by pinchhit 6y ago

   Yep, pretty large & business critical app. BTW, while I'm not sold on re-frame personally, it is used in a sizable project that has powered a lot of business for us, so thank you for developing it!
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    by pinchhit 6y ago

    > I've seen developers remark how turned off they got by reading stuff like this on its front page, which is frankly just noise and undermines the goals of a serious project: This was exactly my experience. Professional clojurescri
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    by pinchhit 6y ago

    I've run a team with re-frame and a team with reagent (and a convention of a single state atom.) Reagent by itself scaled far better. I use re-frame if it's a company convention, but I'd far rather just ditch it. Plain reag