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patrickbaber
3y ago
No, that's a false assumption from my 3-day-old answer, as you can easily see on our GitHub profile: https://github.com/ueberdosis
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patrickbaber
3y ago
I totally understand the fear when VC money comes on the table, but not every open source project can be in the Apache or Linux Foundation ;) Most of the money in those organizations also comes from the big names, not from indie hackers spo
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patrickbaber
3y ago
Thank you for your feedback regarding our pricing! We know that some individual Pro extensions don't justify the price of the whole tier. That's why we are thinking about selling individual extensions in the future. A lot of peopl
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patrickbaber
3y ago
The pro extensions were not free a few weeks ago, and right now we are experimenting a bit with our free plan. To be honest, we can't give away everything for free. We see the free plan more as a way to find out what Tiptap is and how
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patrickbaber
3y ago
Thank you for your early support. It means a lot to us! Do you use Hocuspocus with Tiptap or with another editor?
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patrickbaber
3y ago
When did you try Tiptap? In the last few weeks we have made several improvements to our documentation, but you are right! At a certain point, if you want to do really custom things, you have to put Tiptap aside and dive deep into ProseMirro
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patrickbaber
3y ago
Interesting! How do you get my data into your system to train the AI?
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3y ago
Duckbook looks promising. I like the clean and neat design! I will share it with my colleagues. I can take away your fear. The core of Tiptap will always be free and open source. We will do maintenance and improvement, but eventually we hav
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patrickbaber
3y ago
Apparently, we're not the only ones: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36964592
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patrickbaber
3y ago
As mentioned here, [1] GitLab decided to use Tiptap 1 back in 2020. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36959404
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patrickbaber
3y ago
Thanks for your feedback! Can we find your electron app somewhere or at least the source code? Desktop and especially mobile apps are a completely different domain for an editor.
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patrickbaber
3y ago
As my colleague Sebastian mentioned here [1], we are still in the process of finding the right pricing model. Over the last few months we have added a lot of value to our plans with new extensions and the managed collaboration backend. We a
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The first link shows a discussion that started in July 2020, when Tiptap was only available in version 1. The new major version 2, which is a complete rewrite, was in development. The biggest drawback the GitLab engineers had was the lack o
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3y ago
I didn't know that. Especially the first approach [1] sounds interesting to me, because as far as I know the transactions of Yjs seem to be a problem on heavily changing documents. Thanks! [1] https://github.com/vlcn-i
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3y ago
There is also a startup based in Stockholm called Tiptapp. As always, you just want to find a cool name for your side project, do a little research, don't find anything, and later there are projects with similar names that have been ar
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We think the headless approach is a big factor in why Tiptap has become so popular, but you are right! You can't just add Tiptap to your project without styling. That's why we're always asked about a drop-in Notion-like styli
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patrickbaber
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Good question though! Within the YC program, we're able to do exactly what you mentioned: We can focus on Tiptap and continue to iterate and improve it. Before that, it was quite popular, but it was a side project. A project like this,
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patrickbaber
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Thank you for contributing to our community with your pretty slick editor. We love seeing all these different UIs out in the wild. It's the goal with our headless approach to be as flexible as needed. I like your AI integration. This i
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patrickbaber
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Thank you for your honest feedback. Our goal is to make ProseMirror with Tiptap even easier to use. The demand for modern content editing continues to grow. Tools like Notion have raised the bar. We don't want to hide ProseMirror, we w
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Thank you for your open source contributions and in-depth articles. We think that the field of collaboration is still new and evolving. Because of the pros and cons of the different implementations, we think it might be a good idea to have
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Thanks! We've already found your great project and we're proud to have such a strong community. It's definitely a valid approach to include more batteries. We have been asked many times if we will provide a UI. Right now we&#
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Thanks for the links to the discussion, I wasn't aware of it. Seems like a nice long read and find out what others think about us. I will read it.
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patrickbaber
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Yes, our collaboration backend Hocuspocus uses Yjs. We know the technologies we rely on, but we also know how important it is to find a sustainable way to maintain an open source project. For a popular project that a lot of other people rel
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I can definitely see your point. How many layers do you really need to get a practical abstraction, and how many layers are too many moving parts? With Tiptap we are trying to make it easy to build modern editors. The demands on the usabili
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patrickbaber
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Tiptap AI is still in it’s early stages and we are constantly thinking about how to improve the DX and UX. Autocompletion for text is already working quite well. Our next goals are streaming support for all commands and providing a SDK. Tip
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As we continue to improve Tiptap, we would be interested in more details about the "rough corners". Do you have any examples?
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patrickbaber
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Since the last few weeks we are focusing on the development of Tiptap. We definitely want to have a solid foundation, so we will support the projects we rely on. Without their work, Tiptap wouldn't be possible.