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pastk
2mo ago
Because we have similar costs in CoMaps, e.g. the most expensive part is the map generation server and both OM and CoMaps rent the same model from the same provider and its less than 250 eur/month. And according to https://a
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pastk
2mo ago
Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow. And its enough to hire devs, the first dev was hired more than two years ago, but they have been hiding this fact to look more poor and attract more donation
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pastk
2mo ago
The code in question was in Apache 2.0 repo and DCO signed agreeing its a public contribution. Please see my post above for details.
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pastk
2mo ago
Also me and other CoMaps contributors had been actually banned several months later after they've started their accusations, so the ban is not directly because of the accusations. At first we've been having discussion and arguing
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pastk
2mo ago
> you intentionally leaked the map generation code (which was not intended to be published) In short: It was perfectly legal to publish this code (Apache 2.0 repo and DCO signed agreeing its a public contribution) and OM shareholders hav
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pastk
2mo ago
To clarify - this quote pertains to the Organic Maps situation > Despite being advertised as a community-driven project, key decisions, including financial management, partnerships (with Kayak, for instance), and the inclusion of proprie
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pastk
2mo ago
Proprietary parts had been mentioned in the context of Organic Maps - their map generator is partially closed source, and even OM F-Droid build includes some proprietary assets. In CoMaps we are serious about being 100% FOSS and this is one
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pastk
2mo ago
Don't worry, we have no proprietary code in all builds of CoMaps, not just F-Droid one :)
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pastk
2mo ago
> made by... "community"? We don't even know who that is, original developers and people with experience are not involved. FYI I've been the most active non-shareholder contributor of Organic Maps for 3+ years. Though
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pastk
2mo ago
CoMaps project celebrated its first birthday recently! https://www.comaps.app/news/2026-05-12/celebrating-the-first...
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pastk
2mo ago
There is an outdoor map style which is more contrast to the general/default style, if that helps.
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pastk
2mo ago
There is a subway overlay. And there is marked hiking routes overlay being in development. There is a also an outdoor-focused map style (some people call it a layer too).
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pastk
2mo ago
Feature-wise projects grow more and more different. Ultimately it'd depend what exact features are important to you. The following overview might help a bit: https://www.comaps.app/support/how-do-the-features-diffe
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2mo ago
Display of marked hiking/cycling routes is a different feature from display of trails and tracks. I.e. a marked route is usually a well-known and/or official one and often quite long (sometimes international even) route which go
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pastk
2mo ago
Indeed and this is one of the key reasons we have started CoMaps. The main OM shareholder made it clear to us that interests of the company and the shareholders are at the forefront.
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pastk
2mo ago
> Some parts of the server were closed source for a bit. No longer the case. In fact, nowadays there are many more closed parts in OM's map generator - many OM's bigger new features like hiking, cycling and bus routes depend on
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pastk
7mo ago
IsItReallyFOSS has recently summarized concerns about Organic Maps in regards of FOSS values, check isitreallyfoss.com/projects/organic-maps/
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pastk
7mo ago
Making map generator proprietary won't help to solve "freeloaders hogging onto their map CDN" issue. In fact, it actually forces potential forks to use their CDN because they can't setup their own map generation (as its
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pastk
1y ago
First of all its about truly community-driven, open and transparent governace and project's finances. And living by the FOSS and non-profit values. But if your question is more about app features, then see my reply here: https:/&
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pastk
1y ago
It should work. But make sure that the app is installed from Google Play. Google prohibits use of navigation apps in AA from other sources.
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pastk
1y ago
CoMaps cherry-picks changes from Organic Maps regularly. OM is also free to pick from CoMaps, but so far they haven't been doing so. And yes, amount of work done on OM has reduced significantly, as many contribturos have moved to CoMap
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pastk
1y ago
Sure! Check here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44455300
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pastk
1y ago
I've answered here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44455300
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pastk
1y ago
Talking about the app features, here are some of the bigger / easier to notice differences: - added automatic backups for bookmarks and tracks - added 100m-step altitude isolines to all regions that had worse or no isolines - a big rew
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1y ago
I'll just quote Oleg, who was an Organic Maps contributor working on the new website (amongst other things) and is in the CoMaps team now: "The original design was created by me. I also personally hired and paid for a designer to
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pastk
2y ago
You can export your bookmarks as KML files and import them into OM.
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pastk
2y ago
How come the server code was (is?) de-facto closed source and this fact was kept hidden? In a project that claims to be open-source, privacy-focused and community-driven.
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pastk
2y ago
Nope, Roman has actively contributed to this MIT-licensed code since its inception in 2021.
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pastk
2y ago
The MIT license was added by Alexander himself in the initial commit in June 2021. Since then Roman has contributed actively to the code and Viktor started to contribute more recently too. So there are people who contributed the code under
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pastk
2y ago
The MIT license was added by Alexander himself in the initial commit in June 2021. Since then Roman has contributed actively to the code and Viktor started to contribute more recently. So there are people who contributed the code under the
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