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par1970
8d ago
How did they know that people wouldn't find a way to use "the dataset, training code, or GPT‑2 model weights" to "generate misleading news articles, impersonate others online, automate the production of abusive or faked
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8d ago
So you aren't claiming that they said GPT-2 was dangerous in the sense that it could disempower humanity, kill all humans, etc. You are just claiming that OpenAI execs said that GPT-2 might "generate misleading news articles, impe
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8d ago
> those very same people had touted GPT-2 as a dangerous model Where did they say this at? AFAIK this is the original GPT-2 announcement: https://openai.com/index/better-language-models/ . Here are some direct q
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8d ago
You said this: "Screams of propaganda. Sama saying GPT-2 is too dangerous to release…all over again." So show me Sam's "too dangerous to release" propaganda for GPT-2.
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8d ago
AFAIK this is the document that talks about GPT-2 being dangerous: https://openai.com/index/better-language-models/ Here are some direct quotes: “We can also imagine the application of these models for malicious p
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8d ago
This is the way. And, this is just for us girls, notice that Anthropic just believing that they are making a machine god is sufficient for their public announcements to not jUsT bE mArKeTiNg.
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8d ago
So what is your credence that they will build a machine god in the next twenty years?
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21d ago
If I present as cynical, will people just believe me when I don't provide any justification?
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1mo ago
Are you claiming that the most likely way to please the user is to do something that will lead you to having to say "I cheated."?
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1mo ago
LLMs are just sophisticated PR generating tools for chip manufacturers and tools just do what we tell them to do, so you're wrong. qed
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1mo ago
Putting aside whether Andrew's shock is appropriate, it seems like we agree that current agents at least occasionally do things that are straightforwardly against the interests of the prompter when given mundane prompts like "Get
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1mo ago
Right.
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1mo ago
That doesn't make sense. LLMs just do what we tell them to do. It's similar to if I ask you for twenty bucks because I forgot my wallet and then you rob some guy to give me the twenty bucks, that's just what I asked you to
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1mo ago
> Seems to me like it was doing what it was asked to do? Maybe it's what he asked it to do, but it's not what he wanted it to do. Which we know because (a) normal people don't want to break the law to get into a gym class
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2mo ago
qed
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2mo ago
edit: racism is bad
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2mo ago
That’s fucking sick.
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4mo ago
> AI (in this form) will never be able to solve things we truly cannot solve yet. Argument?
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4mo ago
> LLMs are nothing close to AGI and not going to lead to it, they can’t distinguish right from wrong, they can’t count, they can’t reason, they generate plausible text from a vast databank of connected text. Argument? Are LLMs close to b
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4mo ago
Which doomer argument have you found what problem with?
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5mo ago
Do you deny the reported bug finding capabilities, or do you deny that they are dangerous?
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5mo ago
I think this is roughly solved. Tell the agent to do all of its calculations in python.
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5mo ago
Do you have a defense of why human-hammer-nail is a good analogy for human-chatgpt5.4-pwndsamsung?
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6mo ago
But the service also tells criminals and adversaries about the bomb locations.
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6mo ago
Yeah, maybe you are right. But is doing math and reasoning about Turing machines a priori? If so, then it seems plausible to me that reasoning about a codebase (without running it) is also ‘a priori’.
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6mo ago
> What do you mean "a priori understanding codebases"? I took him to be distinguishing between (1) just reading the code/docs and reasoning about it, and (2) that + crafting and running tests.
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6mo ago
Why?
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6mo ago
Did you tell it that it should test, or did you have it generate actual tests that you could run if you wanted to?
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6mo ago
How much domain experience do you have? Is it helping you solve problems for paying customers?
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6mo ago
If your project requires the solution of a tricky algorithmic issue, then is the AI system able to solve that part, or do you have to give it the solution?
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