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p9idf
4y ago
Why do you believe it is impossible to display a web page of text on screen without a 3D graphics accelerator adapter card? Haven't you ever used a computer without a Nvidia in it before? A young kid like you might be surprised to lear
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p9idf
4y ago
Johannes Gutenberg produced the primary, and, by far, the most serious, application for type setting 575 years ago, long before the era of the Linux desktop. It's called The Book. Read one some time, and maybe you'll learn what a
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p9idf
10y ago
there's no credible way you can claim that the Bell monopoly was healthy for the economy. The Bell monopoly invented the transistor. I think there's a credible claim that could be made that the invention of the transistor was he
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p9idf
11y ago
Why do you find that so repugnant that it moves you to write resentful comments about it? The entire point of researching and publishing computer operating systems is to discover and share new methods and ideas. I doubt that the Plan 9 auth
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p9idf
12y ago
If the world needed OpenBSD programmers to write high-impact replacement software so badly, the world would offer to pay for it. And since evidently no one wants to pay them to do so, it seems pretty reasonable to expect that the unpaid pro
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p9idf
12y ago
You were blunt enough the first time. I don't care what you do on your computer. I can continue happily writing programs after you've forgotten about Plan 9. If people stop nagging me to write them a stupid web browser, and I stop
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p9idf
12y ago
I guess I didn't explain my popularity contest arguments from earlier very well because since this is where all Plan 9 discussions end up, I took it for granted, but this winning friends and evangelizing stuff is what I was talking abo
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p9idf
12y ago
I'm not objecting to bloat or Clippies or any of that other stuff. I'm objecting to this frame of mind that people have which laments the lack of web browsers, has no interest or intent to write one themselves, but then wonders wh
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p9idf
12y ago
This discussion is becoming a little uncivil, but I'll try to stay on-track. "Nobody will [care] about your [...] operating system if it consistently fails to be useful for day-to-day work." Nobody except those who already fi
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p9idf
12y ago
It's completely unreasonable. Why would someone want to waste a bunch of their time and money writing word processors and web browsers to win a pointless popularity contest? What would a word processor or web browser on Plan 9 enable y
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p9idf
12y ago
"I'd much rather have seen it built around scheme, [...]" It's not meant to be built around any language. If there's a language you want to use, just start using it. All you need is access to the system calls. The w
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p9idf
12y ago
No one is stopping you from porting whatever you please. All you have to do is sit down and do it. If I had to guess, I'd say that the main barrier you face is that you de-installed it.
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p9idf
12y ago
About eleven people who once worked on Plan 9 and Inferno are now at Google: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/alumni.html
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p9idf
12y ago
Every second hand shop I've ever been to has a whole shelf of typewriters for less than $5.
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p9idf
13y ago
Some junk mailers scrape the web for addresses: King George II Kermit Project 612 W 115th St New York, NY 10025-7721 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/george.html
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p9idf
13y ago
The graph at http://www.unix-diagram.org/ has it as well as many others not listed in the article.
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p9idf
13y ago
I think I can one-up you. (while :; do cat ; sleep 2 ; done) <file
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p9idf
13y ago
It's not unusual for an operating system to require its programs to use its system calls. A Unix program that doesn't speak Unix protocols is just as useless as a Plan 9 program that doesn't speak Plan 9 protocols. It's
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p9idf
13y ago
Oberon does exactly this. X and Plan 9 do so as well, but without the markers.
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p9idf
13y ago
If you want to know what the script does, reading the script would be the obvious solution. Why should this program's author hold your hand and explain the script in prose when the script clearly explains itself already in its own lang
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p9idf
13y ago
> The idea of never free()ing and then taking advantage of that with a dumb allocator to get better performance is pretty clever. Ken Thompson's C compiler does this. http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9
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p9idf
13y ago
The Hurd authors might find your part-time projects just as sad and pathetic as you find theirs. There's not much I can say beyond that, since you've based your judgement on vague and wishy-washy concepts like going somewhere, bei
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p9idf
13y ago
Reading the Plan 9 kernel code hasn't convinced me that its authors focused on correctness. The kernel code is pretty, and its twenty-year-old architecture could pass as only ten years old; but even excluding drivers, there is no short
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p9idf
13y ago
"The benefits outweigh the risk for 99.9% of players" Does the data support that or did you make that up? This would be a more interesting discussion if it has some scientific substance.
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p9idf
13y ago
Sorry for spoiling your fun, but Plan 9 has a $tabstop environment variable: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/1/0intro
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p9idf
13y ago
>every instance can export its monitoring information as 9p virtual filesystem How do you handle authentication?
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p9idf
14y ago
They're not so creepy compared to some of the artist's other work: http://reneefrench.blogspot.com/
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p9idf
14y ago
That particular Xkcd comic has been posted 79 times in the past year or so† and has quickly become a cliché. The authors' stated goals are to make a "purely functional" and "practical 100% free" package manager.†† They don't mention competi
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p9idf
14y ago
If you forget to save your file, it won't be on your Plan 9 file server either. The only program which has the state persistence you describe is acme which can dump its state to a file and load it again later, but most every editor on every
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p9idf
14y ago
I do have Plan 9 programs available to me be default, when I install Plan 9. If other people don't choose to do that, so what. I'm not a missionary. Research operating systems aren't a secret. The masses evidently aren't that interested. Ev
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