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notepad0x90
3mo ago
But still, it's very weird. You'd think this admin want to be able to round up people and disappear them with FISA court rulings, being able to spy on them first is usually the logical path. They can purchase data from 3rd parties
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3mo ago
what are the chances of them caring so little, but implementing a dedicated signing server, HSM,etc..? even if they sign it, it will probably be done on the same web server.
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3mo ago
i think Anthropic is playing too fast-and-loose with the whole "no publicity is bad publicity" schtick.
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3mo ago
again, bad faith argument. as you said, the internet isn't being banned, so why would you stretch what i said to mean "ban letters"? sending letters to minors might require age verification if it were a real problem, you alre
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3mo ago
we agree.
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notepad0x90
3mo ago
I think it's more of a workforce reduction technique in some areas. how much is the issue, and lots of "it depends" but even at a higher up-front cost, LLMs have higher value and less liability. Instead of offshoring/out
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3mo ago
phone sex is already banned without credit card verification or if you sound like a minor for example. and you're being disingenuous as well, clearly this entire thread is not about "correspondence", i clearly said "inte
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3mo ago
> Bare in mind we aren't banning the internet, just kids on social media. It's neither. it isn't social media only, there will be various sites that are age restricted, similar to IRL businesses. > A billion people have
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3mo ago
it works if it is time-scoped and full age/id verification is done directly with the government. if you're malicious that way, you can likewise verify your id/face and just give a minor access after verifying anyways. you can
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3mo ago
but why does it have to be that way. why not have zkp age verification processes anyways, inconvenience aside, what's the harm. If they refuse to let us use them, they need to explain why. I don't disagree with the malicious inten
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3mo ago
> The only permitted ones require your to link your real-life identity. This is a huge boon to the intelligence services and law enforcement. Then let's talk about THAT!! why is that not the discussion instead of "nah, we'
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3mo ago
zero knowledge proofs exist, don't they? also it matters "private from whom, and what". You can make what sites you visit private from the government, and your identity a secret from the site, but the inverse isn't true,
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3mo ago
Have they never heard of "the boy who cried wolf"? First of all, age verification is not mass surveillance, it is possible to verify your age without disclosing who you are to the site you're visiting, and without disclosing
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3mo ago
why isn't russia, china, india? Sports are artifacts of culture. Although the US does remarkably well in soccer despite soccer not being a mainstay of american culture. The question should be, how come the US does so well in soccer, de
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3mo ago
LLMs mean less devs are needed, not no devs. even after serveral more decades, they'll need steering. I've seen agents stuck chasing one issue, when to me the issue was obvious, but I can see how the model would rule out the obvio
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3mo ago
anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much here, but it's been night and day for me. yes, much much more isolated but my mental health is 100x better. Even my phsyical health has improved in many ways, i'm eating better, resting mo
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3mo ago
This is one reason it's hard to trust science, they start of with a bias and confirm it, but make it look like it was objective. You'd need decades of research to even come near a conclusion on something like this. "suggests&
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3mo ago
this is flawed in a way, they're presupposing social contact is always positive or healthy? It is biased because it isn't looking at the mental health state of individuals prior to remote work, as well as post RTO.
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3mo ago
"think of the children" has been effective because there is merit in it, you can't just dismiss things because someone says "think of the children"!! are you really saying that there is no harm coming to minors? are
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3mo ago
so you're saying kids with bad parents deserve to suffer? Ok, parents should do better, whatever. By your logic, a strip club has no obligation to keep children out because that's the parents' job? > I don't know what
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3mo ago
you mean you don't want to? why not? are you just too used to status quo that's benefiting you right now? It's not like I'm excited about it either, I'm just not finding any reasons other than simply not liking it.
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3mo ago
> We're all talking about what should be done about this. About what, specifically? And, well, why now? There is a seemingly endless lists of victims to crimes happening online. Not only that studies that are coming out in recent ye
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4mo ago
But in real life, if you sell cigarettes to a 5 year old, you'll probably go to prison. Isn't a reasonable approach to the internet, to have a protocol by which individuals can prove they have a state issued identity that proves
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4mo ago
dumb question, with LLMs being so prolific now, why is this sort of a thing.. a thing? Why not us an agent to maintain code people use, but humans don't have time to keep up with? or at least, are agents being used in FOSS software wid
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4mo ago
maybe? I get that you don't, all I'm trying to do (and failing) is have a discussion, apply critical thinking and be able to articulate a position. I'm neither fully opposed to it, nor fully in support of it. I'm always
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4mo ago
Yeah, cloud agents come with nice things like being able to filter content, implement guardrails like preventing PII or prompt injection from taking place. even if they sucked, at least liability wise you're set. I don't know how
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in real life people can see you and determine your age at a rough estimate and be able to tell if you're an adult or not. Do you support having to turn on your webcam and show your face in real time then, to talk to strangers on the in
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4mo ago
you feel the same way about websites then?
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4mo ago
How is that the answer when even parents don't have the right tools for this. are parents supposed to surveil their kids 24/7 and monitor their internet traffic? Why is the internet special, do you also believe physical stores sho
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4mo ago
i think in most cases sites like HN for example would be exempt due to not having enough users. The internet used to a technology people used to do interesting things, and with that came all its expectations. Now in addition to that, it is
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