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The Linux Desktop Is Studded with Grifters
(thelinuxdesktop.blog)
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nmcain
5y ago
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nmcain
6y ago
Should be fixed now, we had a little hiccup with the the translation system that caused it to crash on launch.
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nmcain
6y ago
It uses virtualization to run most/all Linux tools, I'm not quite sure if the functionality is bridged between the UI in Fuchsia yet, but the end product will likely end up looking something look Crostini on Chrome OS.
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nmcain
6y ago
There currently is a bug with the localization at the moment. we are working to correct it but it seems to be quite a bug lol
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nmcain
6y ago
Bit of a fun fact, chrome OS is mostly C++ for the GUI.
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nmcain
6y ago
It does seem to be a trend nowdays. I think the most fitting analogy to what we are doing is "Desigining the album cover for the world tour, when we only have a few songs for it." It most definitely is a little overerpresented on
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nmcain
6y ago
The wording is definitely a little brash and market-y, but I don't think there is anything on the site that is explicitly false, but of course it probably comes across as represented to be more finished than it actually is, which is a
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nmcain
6y ago
You can't install it, and this early on you shouldnt. My word alone probably does not carry much weight, but it is relatively safe, likely safer for usage than most current distributions where the only form of security is an up to date
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nmcain
6y ago
Flutter's team is making efforts to improve it on other platforms, iirc it powers Stadia, and the new Google iOT hardware like the Home Hub (or whever they are calling that now) and the new Google TV.
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nmcain
6y ago
With those benefits, there are also some major caveats that temporarily put a wrench in development. Fuchsia demands a system with a Kaby Lake CPU or newer, which were fairly hard to come by. Thanks to recent innovations in Fuchsia's e
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nmcain
6y ago
We initially experimented with almost exactly what was described here, but it lacked one thing and that was third party expandablility. Sadly, I see no way for common and modern apps in their current form to be integrated into anything othe
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nmcain
6y ago
The builds are not neccessarily licensed, Fuchsia is Apache, and our source is Apache, I'm not quite sure legally about the final product of it. The underlying Linux system is licensed under various licenses, which are provided with th
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nmcain
6y ago
That's perfectly understandable, I even feel that I went a little too "slick marketing" with the website, but I have extremely high, maybe even too high goals for the project.
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nmcain
6y ago
Not to mention some of the best touch gesture support on Linux I have seen so far, one of the benefits of it being a mobile platform ig
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nmcain
6y ago
It definitely isn't an insult :). I attempt to keep more quality and professionalism now, the earlier days of the project were, as they say, "turbulent". I do enjoy seeing criticism, as it guides us and often shows us points
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nmcain
6y ago
It is a bit of a mess. It really shouldn't be able to run online, it just happens to be possible, so we decided to put it up. Flutter really isn't quite mature enough for production on the web, (Partially our fault for a decently
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nmcain
6y ago
Thankfully that's just around for layout reference, working with the Process class was absolutely infuriating. I have made more effort since then to be more verbose and keeping the code up to a decent quality.
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nmcain
6y ago
yikes I can't imagine writing all that in JS
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nmcain
6y ago
Not sure exactly what it has to do with gnome or dbus, the desktop is backed by X11 (Migration to Wayland is underway but it's a pain to work with), the Flutter embedder itself renders with GTK. The project was started as a Fuchsia for
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nmcain
6y ago
Yeah, sorry about the performance. We kinda put that together as an impromptu web demo, like the old ubuntu tour. Flutter for the web is super sucky right now, and lacks a lot of things like accessibility and normal text interaction because
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nmcain
6y ago
As a developer of a Fuchsia fork, I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, not all components are opensource ATM, (like the khadas VIM2 bootloader), but at least they are available.
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nmcain
6y ago
Haha, I thought there was another fork going around. Don't worry, we are actively working on Pi4 support, Fuchsia dropped the 3 because they changed the graphics stack to one that used Vulkan, but the Pi4 has experimental Vulkan suppor
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nmcain
6y ago
fuchsia.dev?
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nmcain
6y ago
What fork are you referring to?