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nickwatson
1y ago
Thanks for the feedback, hoc. I am already re-coding the whole thing to use more of an Agents/crew style approach where certain roles can be assigned to critique the research, fact-check, etc. I re-built with CrewAI but was limited so
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Thanks for all the thoughtful feedback today, everyone. I’m logging the ideas (grounding, source ranking, etc.) and will open issues tonight. Heading offline now but I’ll circle back tomorrow. Feel free to keep the questions coming!
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I updated the Readme now, to describe as "CleverBee: AI-Powered Online Data Information Synthesis Assistant" and put emphasis on the synthesis. Also, put a new section in place: What cleverb.ee is not Cleverb.ee is not a replaceme
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It does it several times, so maybe re-re-re-search works?
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Very true, and it got me thinking a lot. As humans, we align to our experiences and values, all of which are very diverse and nuanced. Reminds me of a friend who loves any medical conspiracy theory, whose dad was a bit of an ass to him, and
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Ha, hoc - it was quite interesting to see, and learn a bit about this. Apparently the suggested term is "Digital Information Synthesis" You can see the report here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vg_
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I'd like to humor you a bit on what you say (going off on a little tangent here). - Were all the existing sources (e.g. news, podcasts, etc) ever reliable? - Do people lobby for certain outcomes on some research/articles? And fina
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I'm very curious. As it's main purpose is built to really search and decide balanced/unbias sources and not really have an opinion, what the result would be of such a question. I'm curious if it will give an answer on th
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I agree, LLMs have biases. It was my primary desire to build this tool and put the weight on the LLMs to synthesize rather than think about and interpret the subjects. It's actually the main goal of this tool - maybe I don't artic
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At the moment the measures taken are: - Full content analysis by Primary LLM (Default is Gemini 2.5 Pro) with link hard-coded alongside each piece of content with structured output for better parsing. - Temperature right down (0.2), strict
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I agree. In all honesty I was just following on the trend that has been popularized by OpenAI/Google so it is more relatable but will mention the "literature review" as you suggest, it's a good idea. I didn't give t
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Fixed, and pushed to the repo. If it hits a timeout but the content is still there, it will now return the content (without the error message) to ensure something small like this doesn't get synthesized. That's the thing about syt
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I never said "heavy reliance" on Reddit/YouTube. It actually is requested to use discernment to recognize poor, or biased sources and opinions, and label them as such (see the example report on Coffee which I shared previousl
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I felt they would just "cast the net wide" with a quick search-collect at scale, then load in the LLMs own training on to the top, and reports I generated were giving me hallucinated content. I wanted something more - collect-eval
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Good spot! I already am on the case with that one. The Rush University website takes a long time to load (check it out), and the script recognized the article had loaded but something on the website was causing it to hang (waiting for netwo
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Done! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bGVkI3xaBP1AvRxkB4GKeL0N...
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I think that's a very good idea, thanks! I'm actually working on "The Beehive" at the moment, where the app can push the research to a hive on the website, so people can share their research/discoveries. My client&#
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Good question — it's pretty straightforward right now: I pass the collected content chunks (with their original URLs attached) into Gemini 2.5 Pro, asking it to synthesize a balanced report and to inline citations throughout . So it&#
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I understand what you're saying. I believe any kind of research will nearly always begin with learning and understanding of the knowledge that is already out there. Almost every subject has been learned this way, whether at school from
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Hi HN I built *cleverb.ee* to solve my own research pain: too many tabs, too much messy sourcing. Gemini and OpenAI deep research tools weren't getting the balanced/unbiased quality I desired. *What it does*: • Reads webpages, PDF
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Show HN: Cleverb.ee – open-source agent that writes a cited research report
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