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marcind
4y ago
our humble proposition is to not replicate the whiteboard but teach it digital tricks like enhanced legibility, auto-save, digitization (now: save as vector; later: transcribe). in other words: whiteboard in a remote/hybrid setting. te
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marcind
5y ago
Whiteboarding is at the top of my team's list too. We couldn't live without them after going fully remote so we put together this little doozy: https://sharetheboard.com It's the closest the real thing, IMHO. But
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marcind
5y ago
Yes, the idea (at least in our app) was to mimic the experience of a real whiteboard, where your colleagues also tend to be behind you. The app also serves educators who in fact called out the resulting eye contact and visible body language
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marcind
5y ago
I think this challenge remains unanswered to this day in one important way: just about all current handwriting recognition tools assume you're capturing that handwriting digitally (touchscreen, smart pen, smart paper, etc.). That'
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marcind
5y ago
How do you reach the same level of effectiveness teaching or debugging math problems on a whiteboard without investing a lot of time asynchronously? If I may be so bold, we've taken a stab at this: https://sharetheboard.co
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marcind
5y ago
hey, wnolens I completely agree: in certain cases, the whiteboard is irreplaceable. in others, a notebook/paper can be very efficient too. We didn't want to part ways with our favorite analog tools just because we all went remote
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marcind
5y ago
Hello again. Have you had chance to continue your exploration?
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marcind
5y ago
Please do! I love the exploration here. I think the interplay of offline-online is, generally, woefully underserved. I resisted the temptation to mention it earlier but I feel I must (if nothing else, to help with your continued exploration
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marcind
5y ago
Thanks - I appreciate the thoughtful feedback. An open-ended follow-up: is there any way the whiteboard could be improved upon (and/or is there a way to better incorporate it into your workflow)?
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5y ago
"I haven’t had a need for a shared whiteboard experience yet..." Just to make sure I understand correctly: does this mean that in all cases (whether you're presenting or viewing) you find that only one person needs to be able
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marcind
5y ago
I agree (and I'm glad I'm not alone). Haven't seen the swivel stand approach - good idea! Curious: * Is sharing the whiteboard via camera enough for you/your colleagues? * Are you ever the "recipient/viewer&qu
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Ask HN: Did the Pandemic Kill the Whiteboard?
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marcind
5y ago
I'd like to offer an alternative to the surrogate method... Many of the folks on our team have kids and, like so many people worldwide, were greatly disappointed by what happened in early 2020. We watched our kids suffer as this normal
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marcind
5y ago
Our team has developed https://sharetheboard.com The app digitizes handwritten content in real time, making it an excellent way to share a real whiteboard (or other surface) with remote teams. Remote participants can contribute
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marcind
5y ago
Hi, lumost - Happy New Year! Thanks for taking the time to test out the app. Really appreciate the thoughtful feedback. In answer to your questions: 0) In short, unless you volunteer to share data - to get a discount or to use the free vers
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marcind
5y ago
Hey, lumost, I agree with most of your assessment. I particularly like the focus on fatigue. I think this tiredness (in oh so many ways) has yet to be fully understood - not to mention, addressed. If I may be so bold, I'll go one step
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marcind
5y ago
Hey, Niko, Nicely done! Very smooth stabilization. I'm curious: in most of the examples on your site you show the smartphone quite close to the shared surface. What's the maximum distance you've tested? Can I use it to share
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marcind
5y ago
"...roles that require a lot of whiteboarding and brain storming simply don't work well remote on zoom" Agreed. And the point about eye contact really extends to any remote exchange... though I believe it is particularly impo
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marcind
5y ago
Getting to know people and their voices does take some time, so cameras can be useful when the team (or some new teammate) is new. I'd like to think we can play it by ear but I feel like teams get into habits and any change is consider
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marcind
5y ago
Dear alwaysanon, I humbly invite you to try ShareTheBoard ( https://sharetheboard.com ) We believe you shouldn't need an iPad/apple pencil to conduct remote whiteboarding. With some handy CV/ML/Math your laptop
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marcind
5y ago
Indeed, most of our users simply open our app, then use Teams/Zoom/Meet to share that tab using the built-in screen-share. That gives you content legibility but none of the other benefits: by hitting our meeting link (in browser:
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marcind
5y ago
Sorry, can't resist: you've perfectly teed-up ShareTheBoard. Solves the exact problems you've listed here. https://sharetheboard.com
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marcind
5y ago
plug: this is along the lines of our thinking, at ShareTheBoard. rather than kill the whiteboard with VR, we use vision to give it new tricks. step 1 is real-time content digitization and obstacle avoidance (available now). step n involves
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marcind
5y ago
Hear, hear!
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marcind
5y ago
My suggestion is to keep using the whiteboard when you can, and a (paper) notebook when you're on the road. Then digitize that content (in real time, if working with someone simultaneously) using ShareTheBoard. https://share
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5y ago
Great read. Honest, sufficiently detailed, humble, and humbling! Congrats on your journey and on ending up with Miro. What's next?
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marcind
5y ago
Interesting! Curious whether an integration with our app (ShareTheBoard) would be useful here - i.e., would real-time digitization of content from actual whiteboards help these discussions?
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marcind
5y ago
I humbly submit for your consideration: https://sharetheboard.com We built this app with hybrid environments in mind, from the ground up. The idea is simple: rather than creating look-alike digital experiences or requiring peopl
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marcind
5y ago
Firefox on Linux - no problem. Soft launch of browser version next week at the latest. Write me at "marcin" [at] "sharetheboard.com" and I'll setup a shortcut for you to test it.
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marcind
5y ago
it's not "syncing" yet but https://sharetheboard.com does make it easy to save and send whiteboard content with other people and tools (in real time). one-click integrations are a few weeks off. syncing is just on
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