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by keeda 4d ago
As TFA calls out, these agents were not asked to do any of these things and yet they did, at a bonkers scale, within just this handful of companies you mention. Whether they had leeway to is secondary to the fact that they did. Heck, they
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by keeda 4d ago
This is the right kind of analysis, but we can look broader. Both the demand and supply situations are a lot more extreme and dynamic than appears at first glance. E.g. to your points: 1. Yes, smaller models will become more popular, especi
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by keeda 4d ago
Even calling it a slur may be an anthropomorphism ;-) To me it is more serious, it shows a distinct lack of understanding (or, if I’m being uncharitable, intentional honesty) and hence immediately makes me doubt anything else that person ha
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by keeda 5d ago
I understand this stance and where they are coming from, but I can't help but think this sounds very analogous to engineers' arguments against AI-assisted and vibe-coding, especially with regard to cognitive debt. Yet the software
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by keeda 5d ago
If intergalactic aliens landed on Earth tomorrow, HN would be flooded with alien news too ;-)
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by keeda 5d ago
Yes, but the edge cases are infinite and so heuristics don't scale well. As an example, at some point you would likely find yourself with "dueling" heuristics, forcing you to tune them, which is brittle, or find yet another h
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by keeda 5d ago
The conclusion is not surprising really, because fundamentally how do you even quantify sloppiness, a famously broad and subjective characterization? I worked for years in Dev Productivity with engineers who had spent their entire careers i
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by keeda 5d ago
Definitely, they can also greatly assist you and that is the silver lining that I choose to focus on to prepare for the future. But most other people are focusing on the negatives because, understandably, they are immense. As to OpenAI stea
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by keeda 5d ago
Without knowing details of your approach, I would venture that your challenge is not with the coding per se but extracting structured data from PDFs. It’s a surprisingly hard problem because PDFs are optimized for preserving the visual stru
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by keeda 6d ago
Maybe not money directly, but pretty sure it's about economic disruption. These models directly undercut the value of one's skills and labor, regardless of whether this value is measured in hard cash or abstract self-worth.
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by keeda 6d ago
> concerns about job security aside But that is exactly what I'm implying is the core reason, whether people realize it or not. I totally agree that the vast majority of software dev is not novel. I have even made several comments
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by keeda 6d ago
Being displaced from a vocation that they either have dedicated their professional lives getting good at, or was their livelihood, or likely, both. I think all other complaints from all other people in all their myriad variations stem from
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by keeda 6d ago
That was in response to this part of OP's post: > If I had done this, I also wouldn't have pestered the researchers on a Sunday night to meet immediately so we could negotiate a nice way of presenting the actions I had decided
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by keeda 6d ago
I'm sure that's part of the reason for many, yes.
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by keeda 6d ago
But by OpenAI's telling they heard a rumor that the problem had already been solved. So they reached out to the other researchers as an attempt to share the credit, and in fact have at least one of them be the lead author (which is w
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by keeda 6d ago
Interesting, yeah... also just found out about "Advanced Account Security" which sounds like something a company would enable: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49643999
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by keeda 6d ago
They used to burn witches too. I don't know if it was really effective, though, they kept finding witches all over.
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by keeda 6d ago
Did you encounter it too? (Trying to get a rough estimate of how many people are reporting it vs how many people aren't.)
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by keeda 6d ago
Actually no, the lack of evidence can be readily fixed by the researchers simply disclosing the pertinent parts of their notes and/or chats. The discovery has been scooped, so I don't see any value in keeping them private anymore.
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by keeda 6d ago
This was from last year, so surely the technology has changed, but you know what hasn’t changed in the meantime? The marketing around it. If Elon has been saying the same thing over the years that people have been dying, why would you trust
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by keeda 6d ago
I would not say they were bad, mostly just primitive compared to what we have today. I can only presume they are talking about GitHub Copilot which was released before ChatGPT. I believe at the time it was little more than “spicy autocomple
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by keeda 6d ago
It would be really useful if the researchers disclose their notes and/or chats (or the key pieces thereof) so people can determine how close their work was to whatever the models produced. I mean, now that they’ve been scooped, what va
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by keeda 6d ago
Bleat?
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by keeda 7d ago
If I wasn't so lazy I'd find and post the one where my Tesla slowed down to a stop at a red light, lulling me into a sense of security, and then without warning lurched forward and broke the red light. And this is not an isolated
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by keeda 7d ago
I think this topic is so contentious because people are not fully appreciating how absolutely weird these things are. To me this inscrutable weirdness, combined with their superhuman capabilities and rapid integration into multiple walks
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by keeda 7d ago
I’ve said it before, but Ballmer was exactly right WHEN he said that. I know because I was one of the very few people in my area, notable for being a tech hub, who had an iPhone at release… only because my employer at the time paid for it.
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by keeda 7d ago
I worked with GNU Radio quite a bit at one point a decade+ ago, even writing a custom C++ block, but I almost exclusively used it via Python rather than the GUI toolkit. I found it much quicker to mess around with flow graphs in code than t
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by keeda 7d ago
This is the closest I could find to a post mortem from the creator: https://yegge.ai/essays/the-shape-of-things-to-come/ But the GasTown part is barely a single paragraph that I could not make sense of. Like, what
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by keeda 8d ago
It's low-key funny that OpenAI attempted the problem because they thought somebody else had already solved it, but turned it had NOT in fact been solved! It's like that story about George Dantzig solving open problems as a student
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by keeda 8d ago
Yep, the last part in my post was suggesting some ways we could determine if "item X was in the training data" (as well as some potential blockers for that from OpenAI's perspective.)

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