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johnnyworker
3y ago
> They just asked Israel to try hard to minimize damage, which they already demonstrated they do. Where, other than with mere hand waving? How did they explain away blowing courts and universities with rigged explosives? Soldiers braggin
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johnnyworker
3y ago
Here's Gideon Levy explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQf-YSgPto I changed it to "indoctrination". Which is a more polite word that doesn't really do it justice, but it's not really imp
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johnnyworker
3y ago
This goes beyond military tactics: > Leading propaganda machine and former Member of Knesset Einat Wilf suggests that the Israeli government should allow aid into Gaza officially, but unofficially let "protesters" to block all
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johnnyworker
3y ago
I have never seen something like his appearance on Crossfire on TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE And here is him speaking to Congress over their shameful handling of benefits for 9/11 responders. Nuff sa
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johnnyworker
3y ago
> it's not even clear if anybody was actually "doused" with anything. It's very obvious that media, the university and politicians look the other way because of the content of the protests that were attacked. If Musli
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johnnyworker
3y ago
I still haven't found a good modern equivalent to http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html
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johnnyworker
3y ago
> what should a country do when 1,200 of its citizens are brutally killed? Post people with guns on the borders. Investigate what caused the extremely sluggish response by the IDF, too. Don't use it as an excuse for war crimes and
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johnnyworker
3y ago
If someone ignores what I say over and over and over again, no matter how I rephrase the point I was making all along, I no longer assume good faith, no. The goal at that point isn't to convince them, but to end it without letting the
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johnnyworker
3y ago
That's not an argument, that's a cold hard fact. The argument is that someone wishing they could commit ethnic cleansing does not excuse actually committing it on a third party. Just like Hamas thinking collective punishment is
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3y ago
> IDF is mowing down their own people I wouldn't put it like that, but for what it's worth: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-17/ty-article/.p... > 'Unlawful, Unethical, Horrify
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johnnyworker
3y ago
> The idea that Netanyahu is responsible for Hamas' popularity is false. The claim was that Netanyahu preferred Hamas "to ensure there was never a 2 state solution", which is true. And so far it that seems to be working ou
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3y ago
> > Meanwhile Israel has recently expressed a desire to occupy their neighbors as well as fully settling Gaza and West Bank after they are ethically cleansed. > I have not seen anyone say this before. Smotrich is very blunt about t
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3y ago
> There is not some kind of "war" package with shared responsibility. That is sophistry to sweep actual war crimes done by actual people under the rug. I'd say that's simply accurate, and should be said more often, no
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johnnyworker
3y ago
> Of course Hamas can be militarily defeated, its military infrastructure dismantled. By destroying civilian infrastructure, targeting journalists, using starvation? No, that can kill all civilians in Gaza, and then there still will be H
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3y ago
First Israel "completely withdrew", now it didn't, but for good reasons. There simply aren't justifications for using starvation against civilians, calling them animals and calling for their extermination, while IDF sold
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3y ago
Nope, the meaning is the exact same. > I'm not going to try to enumerate Israel's mistakes, but when you decide to invite a coterie of journalists to the hospital you damaged to provide proof of your claims that it was actually
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3y ago
Unless you think that reason is that all Palestinians are terrorist and not humans, I fail to see how they're relevant. I'd be happy to accuse Egypt, too, where applicable.
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johnnyworker
3y ago
I agree with all of you that we should not tally crimes, that one crime doesn't justify another. But if I had to rank anyone morally, I'd say the same deed becomes morally worse the better off a person/group/nation is. W
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3y ago
People who are calling out the genocidal speech by hundreds and thousands of high-ranking "trolls" and the genocidal actions by the IDF are in the extreme minority. As exemplified by a teacher put into solitary confinement for p
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3y ago
> They're largely (leaving out goblins like Ben Gvir) convinced they have no intention of displacing all the Palestinians, let alone killing them all. Some IDF soldiers made TikToks addressing Netanyahu, starting their intent to com
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johnnyworker
3y ago
Creating counter-spam doesn't "fix" that, it just helps destroy the public space. > If everybody always lies to you, the consequence is not that you believe the lies, but rather that nobody believes anything any longer. [.
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3y ago
> Just because an entity has agency, it doesn't that in every situation it has unlimited choices. Nobody claimed that. If you're implying not having unlimited choices meant being forced to dehuamnize Palestinians and to call fo
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johnnyworker
3y ago
Yes, of course. But that will take years. In the meantime, time is of the essence, due to the nature of the alleged crime. From the first day of hearings ( https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-rela
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johnnyworker
3y ago
Cutting off water for 2.2m civilians "but only meaning" the militants is not a thing. > It’s absurd to discuss all this as if Israel is the only party with agency here. And each party is responsible for their own actions. It&#x
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3y ago
> Is Israel obliged to provide water to an enemy entity? In what world does a country attacked by an enemy have an obligation to provide water. Using starvation, and denying water falls under that, as a means of warfare is a war crime EV
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3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip > Despite the 2005 Israeli disengagement from Gaza, the United Nations, international human rights organisations, and the majority of governments and legal commentators consi
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3y ago
> The answer to all of them is they are happing during combat, as damage as a result of combat. Turning off water is not combat. Rigging the supreme court with explosives after posing for selfies in it is not combat. Destroying universit
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3y ago
It's the IDF soldiers singing about genocide while they're committing ethnic cleansing, as high ranking officials condone genocide and/or ethnic cleansing, that is the issue. 80% of the currently catastrophic hungry in the wo
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3y ago
> There is no Hamas in the West Bank > The fact is of course Israel is going after Hamas [..] because you are unable to engage with actual facts
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3y ago
The thousands of civilians murdered in Gaza, the people getting killed in the West Bank haven't "plotted" anything. Starving people is a war crime, not war. Nobody, literally nobody ever at any point in this debtate, is talki
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