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jimmyvanhalen
14y ago
On to paragraph 13: "the district court found that the structure, sequence and organization of the JC-5000S was expression, and thus subject to protection." http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/05/oracle-v-google-cant-make... Judge Alsup to
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Gosling: "Despite my well-known opinions on Oracle, they wouldn't do any of the nightmare scenarios that some have imagined: such a meltdown would not be in their own self interest. They have actually been unexpectedly good stewards of Jav
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Gosling: Fears Over Consequences of Possible Oracle Trial Win Overblown
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Questions from Oracle v. Google jury hint at copyright violation
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Still doesn't give you the right to steal my tv.
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He said many things that were pro-Android. Endorsements, explanation, etc. it doesn't matter. What he said was not a license. What questions? anyone can fork OpenJDK and release it under a different license due to the classpath exceptions,
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>Jonathan Schwartz said both bothered them but had to be tolerated, but you've made clear that his opinion couldn't possibly be relevant. We'll just have to see how this case turns out. His "endorsement" is not a license or a permission
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Which I agreed with. That's why I said "We'll find out for sure in a few days." I just posted this to highlight the fact that things are in Oracle's favor. jury told by Judge to assume APIs are copyrightable. Since that order emphasizes th
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jury told by Judge to assume APIs are copyrightable. Since that order emphasizes the importance of the APIs, it probably weighs in Oracle's favor. We'll find out for sure in a few days. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/04/ora
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But with his closing argument, Google counsel Robert Van Nest insisted that the search giant was well within its rights in building its own version of Java, claiming “fair use” of Oracle’s copyrights. Google's defense is incredibly weak.
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>"hack groovy improvements into it, compile it, and want to give it to the world." under GPL (OpenJDK) not ASL (Harmony <-- groovy name). Here's what the Apache Foundation said after it discontinued work on Harmony. "Java specifica
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Sun/Oracle had OpenJDK (published under GPL) which is supported by everyone including IBM (after it abandoned Harmony). >you're going to have to expect non-"Java" open source forks. yes, licensed under GPL not ASL. Here's what Andy Rubi
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Here's what the ASF had to say: that Java specifications are proprietary technology that must be licensed directly from the spec lead under whatever terms the spec lead chooses;
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Note that IBM dumped Harmony in favor of OpenJDK last year after realizing Harmony will never get a TCK license from Sun/Oracle. The Apache Foundation resigned from the JCP Executive Committee in protest shortly after that and last year an
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>purposely made Java so that this kind of thing could happen? what kind of thing? can you explain a little bit more.
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I don't know why you have to drag iOS into this discussion, but it's a known fact that there are way more compromises and "hacky tricks" in Android than iOS.
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it's not just Gosling. "Just because Sun didn't have patent suits in our genetic code doesn't mean we didn't feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all rea
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doesn't matter. he's James Gosling.
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Gosling said that Sun was "wronged" by Google and that Oracle is right to sue Google for the way it used Java code in Android. Just because Sun didn't have patent suits in our genetic code doesn't mean we didn't feel wronged. While I have
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Just because Sun didn't have patent suits in our genetic code doesn't mean we didn't feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jona
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Gosling: Sun was "wronged" by Google re: Android. Oracle right to sue Google.
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>I have no idea why you quote that text related to the Laffer Curve. then our discussion is over.
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Just because my door is open doesn't mean you can just walk in my house and steal my television.
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saw this last month: Daily Aspirin May Help Prevent and Treat Cancer. Taking aspirin every day may significantly reduce the risk of many cancers and prevent tumors from spreading, according to two new studies published on Tuesday. http://w
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the joke is on VikingCoder and Google.
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>How Billionaire Asteroid Miners Make Money -- Without Mining Asteroids. They're going to make a movie about this starring Bruce Willis. Throw in Ben Affleck for comic relief. They're going to call it "Armageddon" and it's going to be a
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How is your country doing with your high tax rates? Do you ever wonder why we are the center of the universe? Do you ever wonder why Apple, Google, Facebook, etc. were all started here in America? In 1978 Congress for once did the sensible
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s/trix/perfectly legal tax laws
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The corporate and personal tax rate in other countries such as Germany and Belgium are higher than the US. I heard Germans and Belgians are "more decent" than Americans. ;) Who's more "decent"? The company that pays taxes, pays dividends to
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s/loophole/tax law s/society/government morality is not defined by how much taxes you pay the government. who's immoral? The company that pays less taxes and returns the money to the shareholders,creates jobs, donates to charity, etc. or bi
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