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jc_dc
3y ago
Yeah, still have what equates to a scare screen. Tells you file may be harmful upon download, then you need to change a setting which is streamlined to what it was before, but still a scare screen. Now you can allow from source…but the sour
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3y ago
I’ll have to test this tomorrow. Last time I tried sideloading direct from our website I had to flip a switch in settings which came with a scare dialog. If I remember correctly, it was a system wide setting too and didn’t allow for trustin
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3y ago
Resolution time on native is longer than web. Bugs happen, native, web, doesn’t matter…bugs happen. Re benefit for who. We will invest our time where it makes the most sense. If you’re familiar with platform risk, you’ll understand that we’
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3y ago
Tend to agree with all of this. Manifest is way too finicky. Would be interesting to see how the play store changes in the event of Android honoring code signing for side loading like windows. Eg..no scare screen on side loaded apk’s as lon
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3y ago
It’s possible to hate them and recognize why they’re doing at the same time though…although I do think there’s also a hefty dose of arrogance and self importance in there. I’m old enough to remember when we (devs) felt this way toward Micro
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3y ago
No, I’d say the vast majority of reputable developers are not trying to scam you. But there are some trying to scam you…and some of those are also in the App Store…as long as they use IAP to scam you all is well.
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3y ago
Google have an interest in moving people away from desktop applications because they don’t have a desktop OS (not counting Chromebook). We run 3 SaaS apps. One is strictly native, and the other two are strictly web. Writing for 4 platforms
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3y ago
To this day, I prefer windows, and I have to switch between Mac and windows all day every day.
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3y ago
And to a degree, that’s why developers tend to hate Apple. They paint us as a pack of crims trying to steal from unsuspecting Apple users.
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3y ago
I don’t buy it. Apple build iOS and I’m sure they will sandbox alt browsers as they do with every other 3rd party app on the phone.
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3y ago
PWA’s on Android can be installed directly from a website…it’s awesome, less friction and less scammy than the Play Store. On iOS you need to use the Share > Add to Home Screen which normies have no clue about. You’ll find out if the sit
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3y ago
It’s because you probably had a phone before the iPhone. If you’re not already a vr user then it’s hard to imagine how this will fit in your life. For me, if I happen to get an opportunity to strap a vr device to my face be interested to pl
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3y ago
Radically different, yes, but linear with the progression of all tech. I wouldn’t say that the iPhone has significantly outpaced Android devices for example. Likewise, I’d be surprised if apples headset outpaces oculus in any significant wa
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3y ago
The verge very briefly mentioned it in the “magic till not” video.
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3y ago
We regrettably have one app under apples scrutiny…we won’t make that mistake again. Open web is the best place for us to invest our time.
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3y ago
Have you actually used it for general computing tasks? If so, how was it?
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3y ago
I loved my htc with the slide out keyboard! Sure, it would reboot occasionally when you slid the keyboard out and it took 45 minutes to send an email on edge but that was back to the future stuff back then.
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3y ago
Yep, I’d say if this thing can’t sell beyond the Apple services subscribers, it won’t exist in 5 years.
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3y ago
Not sure how many devs they’ll get. Of course they’ll get some, but we refocused to invest in PWA’s because of Apple and Googles App Store behavior…we’re certainly not the only devs doing this.
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Depends on what they want it to be. For sure there will be some hardcore indies that just love developing for vr. There will probably be some game studios ready to go. TikTok will probably be there. But, why would Netflix, Spotify, every pr
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3y ago
Everyone forgets that the nerds had windows ce phones before Apple hit the market. It was the 3GS and 3rd party dev arcade games that converted me. Apples challenge now is how to convince people who hate them to go to work for them.
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Good luck with that. Devs made the iPhone a hit and Apple demonized them over it. Can’t imagine too many are eager to make the same mistake twice.
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Ummm…might want to tell that to Apple. Check the guidelines. If us devs were smart, we’d organize and have our apps go on a maintenance break until Apple and Google remember what a computing and platform is without 3rd party devs. You’re al
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3y ago
Agree 100% Last two products we have built were PWA’s and platform risk is the biggest reason for that.
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So you think Apple will go broke if they have to compete with sideloaded apps? Keep in mind, we already pay them for dev tools each year, just like how we pay Microsof for visual studio.
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We already pay them an annual fee, buy a bunch of hardware to test on, and pay to send people to their App Store where they sell ads on our trademarked names. On the flip side, when’s the last time you’re seen a successful computing platfor
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A Walmart customer doesn’t invest $1100 for the pleasure to walk through their front door so they also shop at target, Amazon and direct. There is no way to deliver native software to a users iPhone without the App Store…that’s the problem.