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hp
7y ago
Just wanted to add here for those interested in this kind of thing, that we have over 4000 packages with income maintainers can claim today on Tidelift. If you're a maintainer, ctrl-f through this list and see if you're in there:
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hp
7y ago
I'd argue that money's been in OSS since its inception. To try to put a number on it, here's a random study that 50% of oss is people at their paid job: https://dirkriehle.com/2013/08/22/paid-vs
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7y ago
As someone who was around 10 years ago I'd question that a little, there were lots of OSS companies then, and lots of people getting hired and paid to work on OSS too. A difference today is trying to move some of the money down to smal
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hp
7y ago
I think the people who really care most are doing ops not dev (though of course many people do both)
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7y ago
People have tried every point on the JSON-to-full-programming-language spectrum, I put some examples in this post: https://blog.ometer.com/2015/09/07/json-like-config-a-spectr... JSON5 is new since that was w
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8y ago
The point here of course isn’t that it’s bad to make a profit with OSS; it’s that maintainers can learn from how this was done and participate in it themselves to sustain their work.
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8y ago
I would say that we collect money on behalf of the companies who buy an enterprise maintenance subscription from us, and we agree to provide those maintenance services. So far this is what many OSS businesses do. But while existing OSS busi
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8y ago
The issue here is that "support" is an overloaded word. Tidelift does not ask maintainers to be a help desk where subscribers can call them up directly. But we do provide certain assurances and help with open source dependencies,
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8y ago
I think there's a clear mapping of the Tidelift model to this, and there's also some customer demand from people building embedded systems. As a practical matter it's a bit different from what we built first, both in terms of
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8y ago
Apologies, I didn't see that comment before. The target customer is large organizations and the pricing is typical for that. We'll be getting a pricing page up that explains the details. There are conditions and commitments for ma
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8y ago
The open source part of our implementation is here: https://github.com/librariesio/libraries.io https://github.com/librariesio/bibliothecary
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8y ago
Our ideal is that if a subscriber is using it, we can sign up its maintainer. The Tidelift platform is built on an OSS project called libraries.io which supports many package managers: https://libraries.io/platforms Here&#x
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8y ago
For large companies to buy something, there's considerable overhead: legal review, finance review, management, budget, etc. That's _after_ someone at the company has figured out what the product is and that it makes sense to buy.
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8y ago
A crucial difference from Patreon is that this is a commercial service (an enterprise maintenance subscription). Participating maintainers help do the work behind it, and subscribers who buy it receive benefits for their money. This is comp
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8y ago
No. https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/paying has the long answer to that.
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8y ago
It's analogous to something like Code Climate, Coveralls, TravisCI, etc. Some companies require an on-premise version or want to run the scan themselves and only call an "upload my dependencies as JSON" API, which is fine. Th
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8y ago
Hi, Tidelift cofounder here. This is a reason we don't charge per-package. It costs the same whatever customers report. (Which is what the Wired "Netflix" analogy is about.) The incentive to report accurately is that subscrip
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8y ago
That exists but it's a different, not-mutually-exclusive thing. The Tidelift Subscription is not a donation tool or money-transfer mechanism, it's a product - produced in collaboration with interested upstream maintainers.
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8y ago
Tidelift co-founder here, thanks everyone for the interest. I've added a discussion of Tidelift's share to the docs at https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/paying TLDR our commitment is to pay out at least
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8y ago
The payments are not a donation, they are earned by helping provide the Tidelift Subscription service (the set of tasks and responsibilities enumerated at https://tidelift.com/docs/lifting/tasks-overview ). If som
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9y ago
Hi from Tidelift - thought I'd share a quick tour of what we have to check out today. We think we can get to a more sustainable model for open source software, by adapting the traditional commercial subscription model to include upstre
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An intro to Libraries.io, the universal catalog of open source
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Hello, Tidelift
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Linux distributions have been including the major version in the name for a long time; when we started doing this at Red Hat I wrote down the rationale at http://ometer.com/parallel.html in order to convince upstream projec
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It isn't better than those categorically. But it's definitely better than them for building a multi-process desktop. "better" depends on what you are trying to do. Of course CORBA and SOAP are considered old and horrible
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yep. as noted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8648995 it wasn't even just dcop - KDE had tried CORBA before switching to DCOP, and GNOME of course tried CORBA (two different ORBs), then tried Bonobo-on-top-of-C
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right, nobody was ever intended to use the raw protocol details directly... those details were intended to support an API that looked like using in-process objects (well, perhaps in-process objects with methods declared as 'async'
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9y ago
> There is a reason there is no "shared bus" in Internet communications. Yes, but dbus isn't _for_ Internet communications. It was designed to wire together the multiple processes that act more-or-less as a whole to implem
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St. Monday and the Sharing Economy
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9y ago
something has to matter :-) after making commas, braces, brackets, and quotes optional linebreaks were what's left...
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