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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Alas, I see that we (you and I and great-grandparent) are talking past each other.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
(1) You speak as if by “we” (or “society”), grandparent was exclusively referring to men. We (non-men, for example women) are a part of society, and some of us can be quite awful to each other; this, I expect, is common sense. The obvious r
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Not exactly a “generation”, but you are onto something here - men (broadly speaking) do appear to be more susceptible to radicalization.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
No, it would mean not attributing innate value to maleness or femaleness, so to speak,, but to the relevant metrics. One can still compute a mean afterward and potentially find that it differs, but that is no judgment of inherent value 
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Exactly - it’s still there (and still has its own semantics), but it’s also inert. And, to address your point directly, of course mathematics detached from context can be used in practice. One can certainly create-slash-discover an abstract
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Not in SF (for better or worse). But yes. I would further suggest that sometimes people get too invested in online spaces and calibrate their worldview based on it perhaps a bit too much. (And prior to this it was traditional mass media, or
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
I actually agree with you - “the symbols mean something different now” isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. But I was trying to point out (what I saw as) a big ambiguity in parent’s comment.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
My program depends on glibc. Does glibc necessarily depend on my program?
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Yup. You run into that all the time in abstract algebra. Although people usually don’t like to touch the equality sign; the usual practice (based on my limited exposure) is to invent equivalent operator notations.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
1. I would object to the “similarly”, because they are not similar types of statements. And yes, the tautology aspect is the whole point of the axiomatic method (which has limitations that cannot be directly blamed on that premise). 2. You
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4y ago
Wow, I guess my mental model (so to speak) is even more “radical” than yours. I don’t think mathematics is really part of the (empirical) universe, but that they are their own kind of abstract entity. They may happen to correspond to certai
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
It would seem that, when you try too hard at being creative, chatgpt usually just loses it completely - in my experience, it often starts falling back on even worse cliches, or it stops making sense altogether. (Or it might just time out.)
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4y ago
Absolutely agreeing that true “intelligence” would come from such a synthesis - it also loosely matches what we know from cognitive psychology. We won’t go anywhere without rigorously addressing knowledge representation and reasoning - unli
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4y ago
> Creative writing I tried to get it to write _1984_ erotic fanfiction, which it did - but everything it spewed out was a cliche. I imagine it had read all of FFN and AO3. > gathering information It will probably be like the Google in
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4y ago
As a (former) student of psychology, I personally subscribe to the view that both platonism and constructivism are true (edit: in that they both accurately depict different-but-interrelated aspects of mathematics). It’s a false dilemma much
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2+2=4 is (roughly) the same kind of truth as “two groups each consisting of two elves have a total of four elves”, or “if you travel a distance of 2cm twice, you’ve traveled by 4cm”, except it isn’t tied to the real or fictional existence o
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4y ago
This is a very shortsighted, historically-ignorant take that singles out M2F trans folks disingenuously - there have been plenty of calls from all over society, from cis women to trans women to trans men to gay folks to straight folks to an
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4y ago
And sometimes fined, but also sometimes having their convictions overturned - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_Unit... Not “literally” the same as assault charges though - “public order” laws hav
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Which is not to the parent comment’s point anyway.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
Classic DARVO.
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
“The population is mostly poor outside a few cities” seems to have been a historical norm in most of the world, for one reason or another (regulatory capture / colonialism / decline of key industries / etc). (And I wish we ha
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This is the real question. The sources that I dug up from a casual search seem to suggest this is the ratio of tenure-track faculty to administrators specifically. Still a shame - universities need to treat their research and teaching staff
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
More demographic proportionality?
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gallopingcomp
4y ago
The description is not a metaphor. “Lost my marbles” is a common one for psychosis, dementia and the like, though.
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gallopingcomp
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Are you kidding me? Mainland China has the worst virtue-signaling bureaucracy that I’ve seen anywhere by far (and the corruption that came with it). Administrative bloat (and the tyranny of corporations) is a problem, but don’t presume th
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Psychologists might call it controlled exposure to fear, under conditions where you know (or will soon know) that things will more or less be all right / have a safe space to retreat to. (Which is a bit subjective, but most people seem
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China has Internet mobs and flame wars too (across many of the same range of issues and sides), but this is usually suppressed by widespread censorship that simply shuts down all discourse. I would even argue that the mentalities behind the
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Exactly this, and this is a general pattern. This is reminiscent of my previous struggles with cyclothymia[1], for example. Furthermore, the perception of impending calamity was contributing to the stress and worsened the symptoms further.
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There are more cases of subtler failures that are smaller in scope, eg. in the Chicago metro[1], or on the UNC campus[2]. I do agree with part of your sentiment. Those two examples are the worst case scenarios where misfortunes happened to
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> Awful behavior in general comes from an absence of fear I assume you meant _specific_ fears about the consequences of one's _specific_ actions (e.g. fear of harming someone else, or fear of receiving backlash for it; or fear of sq
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