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dfrappier
9y ago
You are correct. If someone can afford bail, they will likely bail out. If someone is not given bail by a judge, they will not be allowed to bail out or participate with Promise-they will stay in jail until the resolution of their case. If
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dfrappier
9y ago
Thank you for your thoughts. I wanted to share a couple recent reference points on the topic of bail/pretrial detention. Here is a cite to a recent CA case that came out of SF and discusses what judges must consider to set bail: http:
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dfrappier
9y ago
There is a chart here that is helpful in understanding the total number of people who are impacted by different parts of the criminal justice system. Approx 70% of people in local jails are there for non-violent offenses, approx 45% of peop
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dfrappier
9y ago
Promise would not pay the cash bail. The goal would be that no bail is paid at all. We would work with the government to agree to release certain individuals back into the community without having to post bail. Promise would then remind the
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dfrappier
9y ago
Yes. Our initial target population are those individuals who are currently in jail pre-trial-meaning they have not been convicted of the crime for which they were arrested. Most of these people remain in jail because they cannot afford to b
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dfrappier
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I can speak from experience and the experiences of many defense attorneys. Many of my clients spent time in jail and then the government decided not to file charges, or the charges were later dismissed, or they were acquitted of the charges
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dfrappier
9y ago
Promise will be given all court mandated obligations for each participant. The Promise team will help monitor them against that plan. If we see that they are not meeting court obligations, we will work with participants to get them back on
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dfrappier
9y ago
Some counties have pre-trial departments and some don't. We believe we can perform these services or enhance services that already exist. In either case, making the current system more efficient and effective.
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dfrappier
9y ago
Yes. Our system is based on the premise that people are "innocent until proven guilty" but in practice, people that have money can bail out of jail and people who don't, remain in jail. This is fundamentally unfair. While inc
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dfrappier
9y ago
Not yet, but we may in the future. Please keep us in mind and check for open positions on our website.
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dfrappier
9y ago
Promise would make these programs more efficient by providing additional support to participants and having the technology take care of many of the routine, time consuming tasks that social workers or case managers currently do.
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dfrappier
9y ago
This is happening in the U.S. too. Some of the counties are under court mandates around overcrowding in the jails. The goal is to have individuals in their communities but without any support, they often miss court dates or other obligation
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dfrappier
9y ago
Thank you! We agree. And we will be working to make positive change.
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dfrappier
9y ago
Our plan is to start working with individuals who are in jail pre-trial, but after many conversations with different stakeholders it became apparent that we should also work with individuals who have been convicted. So it is part of our pla
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You are correct. Needs of those in the criminal justice system vary widely. This will depend on the government partners in each jurisdiction that we are in. Some clients will assign us participants and some will give us guidelines on who we
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We believe that is necessary. There are many organizations and individuals working on this issue. We support change to the culture of mass incarceration. We believe getting people out of jail and helping to support them while they are out i
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dfrappier
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Thank you. Every jurisdiction has their own protocol. Bail is usually set based on a bail schedule. In CA, every county has their own bail schedule. The judge can then listen to arguments to either increase or decrease the bail amount based
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dfrappier
9y ago
Agreed bail must go. We are working in Kentucky, where bail is gone. However, it has not solved the problem.
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dfrappier
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When you are in jail or someone you love is in jail the choice to get out with a smartphone app and support is pretty clear. It is interesting feedback about monitoring but when it is you or your family, you want out. The most folks reachin
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We agree. It is also really troublesome to make the case that poor people who cannot afford bail should be kept incarcerated for public safety, but people who have the money to bail out, can await trial at home.
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9y ago
We spent most of our professional lives in non profits and the last 6 years in for profit. We believe the business will better serve people with the structure for many reasons, such as hiring, not having to deal with foundations or individu
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dfrappier
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That would be great. We very much appreciate it. You can email us at founders@joinpromise.com
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dfrappier
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We have introduced recidivism as part of our performance metrics. Currently, contractors are paid per day, per person. We believe it creates the wrong incentive. The best way to correct is to incentivize companies to have people not reenter
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Thank you. Our main goals are to keep individuals on track for completing all court mandated obligations and to connect them to services. When we do our detailed intake with participants we evaluate their needs and work to connect them to t
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Many people who are in the day to day see the value. Public defenders who we have spoken with understand the chaos that is created when their clients miss court and they see the value of our product. Sheriff staff who we have spoken with wo
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This is a tough question. I have been a criminal defense attorney and was the co-founder of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights that has worked hard to bring change to the criminal justice system-initially for juveniles but now for adult
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dfrappier
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Thank you for your support! We agree that a big part of the solution is changing mindsets.
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dfrappier
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Thank you for opening and sharing your thoughts! We have been speaking with sheriff departments, district attorneys, public defenders, probation departments, judges and other parts of the criminal justice system. They have slightly differen
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Our current plan is to do contracts with government agencies. There is no plan to charge the participants directly. Our plan was to start with pre-trial individuals but in speaking with potential clients, we do have interest in working with
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dfrappier
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They will not be performing any service or labor for Promise. They will work with our team. Our team with get them set up on the app, do an intake to refer them to appropriate support services, work with them to make sure they know about co
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