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dannywarner
4y ago
A conversational interface does not have room for a page of ads. Google results are an entire page of ads for most keywords with commercial intent now. In a chat interface on mobile there is nowhere for them to go. My opinion that conversat
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Something not mentioned here is advertising and ad tech. With traditional search advertising going away, psyads - psychologically manipulative advertising that changes answers and text generations to convince people to buy and do things - w
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dannywarner
4y ago
This from a competing search engine summarizer for that link. ```ChatGPT can be a useful tool for helping students to develop their writing skills and think more critically, but it should be used to complement and enhance traditional method
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dannywarner
4y ago
This is a completely reasonable and insightful comment.Along with any comments critical of Kagi, it is downvoted to oblivion. I have to say the way Kagi shills overwhelm any discussion on HN is incredibly frustrating. They hijack every thre
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dannywarner
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I am (obviously) copying and pasting the same urls that appear in the search results I shared individually into the url entry form on the Kagi summarizer page.
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dannywarner
4y ago
It is reliable for me. Here is a test to compare. I did a search for 'google chatgpt clone'. AndiSearch generates a good summary for every result. https://andisearch.com/?q=google+chatgpt+clone Maybe Kagi has HN h
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4y ago
Also, being realistic, I do not believe that many normal people try to summarize the full text of old public domain ebooks. If you search for Moby Dick, much better resources come up, and that is what you want a summary for. People want a s
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4y ago
I find it does well with ebooks. I haven't tried with pdfs or videos. The quality of the AndiSearch summaries for the things I use every day like articles, Wikipedia and technical documentation is very good. The Summarize button is on
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Fwiw I use AndiSearch and they already have a great summarizer integrated directly into search results that they launched last week. There is a Summarize button on every result card that can show a summary. The summaries are much faster. An
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4y ago
Right up there with "On Error Resume Next" from the world of VB!
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4y ago
They did a Launch HN recently: Launch HN: Hello (YC S22) – A search engine for developers'[1] Nothing much has changed since. So they appear to be trying to cash in on the interest in ChatGPT. Interesting they didn't include that
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Teclis non-commercial search engine is no more
(teclis.com)
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I liked this. I don't like that they took it offline without even updating the home page. Frustrating. I was searching into the void. A friend who is a Kagi user told me that they posted on Discord they have taken it offline. Meh. It h
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Metaphor Systems – search using language models
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Safe surfing without tracking, with Startpage and Vivaldi
(vivaldi.com)
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Thank you with those extra steps I got it working now myself. At least I think thank you. My work productivity for the next few days might not agree.
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I am sorry @dang I apologize for the aggressive tone of my comment and not making a better argument without the anger. The promotion felt blatant. I let it get to me (every comment I believe at the time - and many other recent posts). It wa
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Three things: 1. You don't know what privacy is. "We believe that Kagi has the most user-friendly privacy policy of any search engine out there. However, privacy and anonymity are not the same things. For example your parents can
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You.com launches You Eats restaurant search
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I left a large tech company with the dream of building a startup. I failed and am back doing consulting work and figuring out my next step. After realizing I'd failed, I fell in a deep rut. You can get out of it. Small steps is what wo
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Y Combinator has a thing for Gen Z founders looking to disrupt the search engine
(zfoundr.com)
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YouCode a Search Engine for Coders
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Dude why do you have to fill these threads about all the spam on search with yet more spam promoting your crappy Bing-based search engine. Just let the conversation happen without all the self promotion ok? Jeez Louise this is annoying!
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You might be missing the point. Try a difficult question instead of a regular web search. Something like this. "Why did Twitter add Elon Musk to its board of directors, and what impact did that have on twitter's share price?"
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Google is anything but a simple box that gives you answers now. It hasn't been that for a very long time. I wish it was. It is a box that gives you a screenfull of ads, some spam copycat sites I wish I could remove, and a lot of clutte
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Did you try Andi search? It returns full search results alongside the answer and has full preview content for many of the websites, and the content is from the websites not Google or Bing's snippets. It's completely different to t
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I just tried 'when will the movie ambulance be released?'. Answer was 'The movie ambulance will be released on April 8, 2022'.
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Agree. Simple Flask and HTML gets you a long way and is easy to deploy and manage.
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The post recommends SaaS / IaaS in place of VPS. "It's 2022, and I'm here to tell you, that deploying stuff online purely using SaaS / IaaS offerings is an option, and it's often the quickest, the cheapest, and
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4y ago
An additional thing of interest. The text of the results such as heading and summary on andisearch is not the same as the other search engines. I think it displays more of each web page's content from its index.
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