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danShumway
1y ago
I think it's great if reviewing code for you is faster than writing it. I don't think reviewing code well is something most developers can do faster than they can write it. I think that's what Joel is getting at when he say
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1y ago
You've said this a couple of times, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. Yes, I can do frustrating things, I know how to review and vet code. I also know how to write boilerplate code. I also know how to research
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1y ago
> LLMs (not even agents; LLMs themselves, intrinsically) use frameworks. That's not what I see the parent comment saying. They're not saying that LLMs can't use frameworks, they're saying that if you have rote solutio
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1y ago
So as an example of what this could look like that would be convincing to me. I started out pretty firmly believing that Rust was a fad. Then Mozilla and Google did things with it that I did not think were possible for them to do. Not "
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1y ago
> The YC acceptance number is a measure of how many startups YC has decided they can handle in a single batch. Agreed. > I think percentage of accepted startups doing X carries more information than total number of startups accepted a
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1y ago
Apple's policy was also the same for apps that you bought upfront. There are paid apps on the app store, they also were not allowed to link to payment methods in-app for things like DLCs, add-ons, etc... Which noteably, Walmart doesn&#
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1y ago
Yes! Why do people keep on asking this? Yes, practically every single tech product that you buy from Walmart will include links to their online stores in the packaging. Including Apple products! And this has been the case for ages. I rememb
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2y ago
> Like standing it's original idea Patreon's original idea included the features you're calling antifeatures. You are imagining a fictional version of a platform that has never existed and getting mad that the real platfor
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2y ago
> It is also a better end user experience. If this was clearly true, Apple would not forbid apps from telling users that other payment methods exist. You don't have to hide alternatives from a user if what you're offering them
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2y ago
> difficult as possible for the user to circumvent. But not as difficult as possible for the user to be aware of. If an antivirus installed itself on my computer without my knowledge and hid the fact that it existed from me, we would cal
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2y ago
> I doubt a significant portion of this niche is “being kept unaware” that Patreon has a website. If this was true then Apple wouldn't have provisions against informing them. People keep on saying that this is some informed choice.
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2y ago
> but I suspect it's a niche that Patreon is very interested in (both because Patreon can't engage them through any other channel, and because they probably have above-average discretionary spending). It's interesting that
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2y ago
> I'm a creator, not on Patreon due to sanctions and I have a dayjob for now. Great. Not to be blunt here, but if you're not on Patreon then who the heck cares what your opinion is on this? I feel like it's kind of reasona
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2y ago
> but someone apparently thinks they should. To be 1000% clear, the someone who is demanding this feature... is creators . This is a feature that creators heavily use, by their own choice, because it helps them psychologically or becaus
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2y ago
Patreon does not require creators to pause payments when they go on break. But that should obviously be a choice that is available to creators, for a variety of reasons. They might be treating Patreon more like a subscription service than a
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2y ago
> But the dev agreed to basically pay Apple an origination fee to publish an iOS app in their store. This is its own can of worms, but doesn't really change much about what I said above. That might be exactly your point though? That
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2y ago
Currently the majority of Apple's Safari revenue comes from Google search deals. Do you believe that if Apple got rid of those deals, it would be justified in applying similar restrictions in Safari to support development of the browse
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2y ago
> Is it allowed to put a notice that Android and web users are given a 30% discount on the normal prices No. You are not allowed to provide customers any details about other payment options. Apple has provisions that basically say, "
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2y ago
> and likely have been advised they need to enforce it uniformly due to regulatory scrutiny. I'm not certain what the category difference is between Patreon subscriptions and Youtube/Amazon/Spotify subscriptions, all of wh
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2y ago
Sure, I suppose. I do want to re-state that if the majority of Patreon users (not creators but users, subscribers ) agreed with you, Patreon already wouldn't exist. There is no conspiracy among creators to keep the platform afloat, th
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2y ago
So... they would give Patreon money by going to their website? Is this a niche market that would never have been available to Patreon that Apple is helping Patreon access, or is this Apple needing to en-mass protect its users from themsel
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2y ago
> Not infinite value, just any value versus 0 value. I'm not a fan of Patreon by any means, but it seems pretty silly to me to argue that Patreon offers literally zero value to consumers. Patreon's interface is still better tha
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2y ago
Sounds like a fun experiment. I'd be interested in Apple allowing Patreon to test that theory by disabling purchases within the app. Is this really about access to a niche user group of users who would never sign up elsewhere? Apple se
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If we were having this conversation in the late 1800s I'm pretty sure that you would be arguing to me right now that the trans-continental railroad provides "tremendous value" to shippers. It's become an increasingly com
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2y ago
Does Apple's change do anything at all to help alleviate any of the concerns you have? You have fewer subscriptions options for creators (1st-of-month billing and per-release billing is going away, despite the fact that creators regula
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2y ago
I hate when companies try to draw out or sidestep attempts to unsubscribe, it's a huge issue with subscription services. I'm really encouraged about recent pushes to ban this kind of behavior. That being said, I've just check
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2y ago
Fair enough, we might be aggressively agreeing with each other. Apologies if I misunderstood you.
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2y ago
Huh, that's interesting. I've never really looked into them before, but could be. Might also be speaking style or which articles we comment on.. I don't really know what metrics they look for :shrug:
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Apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying. Generally good reminder to me to regularly take a step back and try to figure out when I'm reading more into a comment than what was intended. > I'm agreeing that the PC being &q
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I wonder why Patreon isn't hammering this point more if that's the case. This seems to me to be an almost bigger problem than the loss of the per-creation billing. Not that losing per-creation billing is good, but Patreon has been
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