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dabbott
3y ago
Thanks so much! I like that idea of embracing the mess and letting AI handle the busywork. Making messes is more fun :)
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Thanks! Agreed, the protocol for both input/output is super important and our top priority right now. It's also the thing we're most excited about from a technical perspective, since we haven't seen anything quite like w
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Great questions! For getting components into the system: we're working on a protocol (more specifically a TypeScript interface) that defines a mapping from component types that the tool understands (sidebar, navigation header, etc) to
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Definitely! We have a first draft of a protocol for integrating any components/theme into Noya, but it still needs a little more work. Once it's ready, we (or anybody else) can add Bootstrap as a supported design system.
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Right now it's not very good since that hasn't been a focus for us yet - but both David and I worked on fairly advanced design tools for accessibility while at Airbnb, so we have a lot of ideas here!
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Got it! Thanks for the info, it's very useful to understand the workflow.
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Right now the individual components are responsive, but the entire design as a whole isn't (i.e. top-level components are absolute positioned). This is definitely an area we want to improve a lot, and allow users to customize what happ
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At the moment, yes, since our MVP is still pretty limited. We have a first draft of a protocol for integrating any components/theme into Noya that should support the use case you're describing. It still needs some more iteration t
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Thanks for the feedback! This is super valuable. 1. There isn't anything fundamental about that tool that requires React. We have a lot of React experience and it's a very popular framework, so it made sense for us as a place to s
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We're currently searching unsplash for stock photos. I didn't find anything too weird when I tried that query, but they do sometimes feel random. We want to add multiple image providers, include generative AI-based providers.
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Thanks, will look into this!
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Definitely agree on there being a lot of value in the napkin sketch on steroids approach, and that's where we're starting. Creating real designs and shipping to production within a constrained environment (e.g. https://
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Custom theming & design systems are coming! That's what we're focused on building now. We can definitely support a bootstrap-based design system with custom theming in the future.
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We can add this! We have image drag n drop already so should be very easy to also support pasting from clipboard.
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That's a great point! For simplicity we've been referring to our current "design system" as Chakra, but it's definitely more nuanced than that. We think of a design system as "a library of components and tokens
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These are great questions: 1. The way I've been thinking about it now is similar to how I use autolayout in Figma. Simple x/y is convenient for a very first rough draft. Then I'll refine my design by making components and add
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Gotcha, we can do that!
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That's a very interesting point. By guiding people down the "happy path" with "guardrails", we may end up in mediocrity land. Additionally, Noya is optimized for solving user/business problems and not visual ex
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Thanks for the feedback! I'll take another look at the pricing flow on mobile, I'm sure it could use another UX pass to be more clear. It's one user per subscription, though you can have unlimited shares/viewers - what w
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That's a great way of describing the problem we're trying to solve! As the tool grows, we definitely hope it becomes powerful enough for designers to use too.
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Awesome, let me know what you think once you do!
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Launch HN: Noya (YC W23) – a new kind of design tool
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The app frontend is open source while the backend is closed source, at least for now. Noya should run without the backend, but some things like sharing projects won't work. I'm planning to publish the individual frontend packages
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Can you share more about your use case?
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Thanks for the feedback! - I think showing the code in the UI makes sense! - We definitely want to allow theme customization. I'm not sure exactly what that'll look like, but right now it feels pretty limiting without it. I think
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This is definitely important to consider! I think our "escape hatch" is that you can generally add tailwind css classes to any block (or at least, that's the goal) which means that most things are possible. Since Noya is web-
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Whoa, this is awesome. I feel like I could really level up my skills by watching this.
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At least for the time being, you still need to tell GPT what you want before it generates something. Noya works at a level of detail that's more suitable for telling GPT what you want than most existing options.
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Interesting, thanks for the report. I'll check it out.
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Awesome! Lots of fun stuff is in the works :)
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