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cool_look
8y ago
> it is clear enough that the climate is changing that the UN did a thing, founding the IPCC in the 80ies circular argument... the various religions did a thing and founded priesthoods... does that offer proof of their various gods ? the
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8y ago
But those 'extremes' increasing never stand up to scrutiny.
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8y ago
Are we never allowed to have a hot summer ? What about the very many hot summers that are recorded in 350 years of records that pre date the industrial revolution and therefore CO2 emmissions. The hottest June on record is 1846...
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8y ago
Heatwaves need to become more clustered. At the moment we get them every so often at roughly the same rate we always did. As mentioned June ( very hot ) was 18th out of 350. There were 17 other hotter Junes in 350 years... many pre industri
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8y ago
NASA says Antarctica has been gaining ice: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-o... Ice loss from antarctica not a large contributor to the small sea level rises around the world
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9y ago
"In a study spanning two decades, a team of researchers led by Colorado State University found declining numbers of..." 20 years, is but a blink of an eye. It takes us back to 1997 only. What was the longer term trend ? How would
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9y ago
A Journalist telling us not to trust people. That is quite rich
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9y ago
It got hotter until 1998 and plateaued until today 2017+, occasionally setting small new highs (0.1C when margin for error is 0.4C). That was already accepted and should not be trumpetted as further "proof".
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9y ago
"lets out data when it suits" that is rich coming from a journalist.
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10y ago
It is common in many fields for a small group to produce 'agreed text', that other parties then sign off on * PR pieces ( http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html ) * Legislation ( http://www.linklaters
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10y ago
From the stackoverflow comments its clear that theoretical models have been proposed to infer the temperature on land from the ocean database. the main concern is that the models are pure junk science. so saying "our models say it is s
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10y ago
that was just one of many many charges of tampering[1]. honestly this cristicism of the NOAA, NASA is pretty unwelcome by most HN people, so im not proposing everyone accept this immediately. but the facts are out there and slowly if what i
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10y ago
Sorry to hear about anyone losing jobs. The NOAA has been suspected of doctoring the record[1], of all varieties including the satellites once they got control of them[2]. there will be more insider stories of how some conspired to fake AGW
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10y ago
On the surface it is about preventing deletion. But the subtext is that any 'discoveries' or 'corrections' will be rejected out of hand. The prime ones being the recent corrections to the land temperature record that coo
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10y ago
So now we have complete polarisation. Left leaning people will not accept any science generated under a Right leaning government and as we already know Right leaning people find it hard to trust the science coming from a Left leaning govern
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10y ago
thats why my dreamt up example included just factual statements "350 this month". doesnt make it better though, does it ?
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10y ago
(forced to use a side account to comment on this) You have to look at it from the Trump teams point of view. They honestly don't see that the 'free speech' argument holds water. They see it as abuse of a public position to sp
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Analysis of Ship Log records show Antarctic extent unchanged from 1890s
(telegraph.co.uk)
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10y ago
more than 40 samples. 200 samples at minimum. "Long term" is misleading and relevant only to a space age start point where we launched satellites. 2000 year ice core samples: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/
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10y ago
That is a compelling explanation. I agree that mild warming has clearly occurred. the hot summers and warmer winters are both clear and must also have been corroborated by local people ( im in the UK so completely unqualified to say ) i don
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Look, I'm not American, but why would they foresake a state because of the state's predominant Voting habits? 1 in 3 voted Republican, are they going to be thrown to the wolves because of the other 2 ? https://en.wikipe
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Ain't that the truth. Neither side is free of lynch mobs and people conveniently ignoring facts that don't fit their pre-agreed agenda. This is just a side account of a regular HN user so sick of lynch mobs that I have to use a ps
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And what precisely does this have to do with man made global warming ?? Not every drought / flood / tornado is a result of global warming. In fact there have been recent studies showing that extreme weather ( drought, flood as men
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so that chart is from 2003 - 2009 ... and that is evidence of what exactly? 6 samples of a multi century phenomenon and you are ringing an alarm bell ! the chart smacks more of searching around for a chart that shows a decline to prop up th
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i did read the links... what basis do you have for thinking i didn't. so tell me, what about the radiosonds not corresponding to the corrections? oh, did you not know about counter evidence outside this article that also point to tampe
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difference yes. you dont see the similarities?
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oh come on. tell me how many samples of a multi century phenomenon like the arctic ice do we have ?? less than 40 samples ( years ) i have read all the literature and it is not convincing. we've been warned variously about ice extent,
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and what about skeptics who think the current explanations are deeply flawed and being propped up for continued funding ? this happens outside climate science, why should it be different because Climate ? See the physics lady critical of th
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10y ago
Long time HN user using a throwaway account because of the lynch mob ( both sides ) The article page 3 mentions a crucial get-out-of-jail card that HN is taking completely hypocritically at face value. Namely that NOAA adjustements are in r