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cetalingua
4y ago
There have been two interesting studies that further support the hypothesis of somewhat complex communication system. One was done in Florida with wild dolphins who hunt cooperatively. One dolphin drives the fish,while others act as a barri
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cetalingua
5y ago
Actually no, orcas echolocate a lot and also exchange quite a few calls while hunting fish (based on acoustic tag data).
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cetalingua
5y ago
We do, actually, for dolphins at least. Researchers did an experiment where dolphins had to coordinate their actions (push 2 buttons together) without seeing each other. So they coordinated their actions acoustically by communicating when t
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cetalingua
5y ago
Motivation could be an issue. What if they do not want to communicate with us? What if we are too slow for them? Dolphins produce burst pulses that have interclick interval of just few milliseconds. We cannot even hear these individual clic
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cetalingua
6y ago
No, it is not that simple. Humpback whales have been observed to interfere and mess up with orcas protecting gray whale calves from being killed. It was observed several times and researchers think that humpbacks just really cannot stand or
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cetalingua
6y ago
The obstacle is that we still do not fully understand nor are able to replicate their sonar, even the Navy that has been studying dolphins for decades still cannot duplicate biosonar (read more here: https://www.nationalgeograph
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cetalingua
6y ago
https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/cetalingua/dolphin-chat It is not active yet, it will be in a month or so. You can also sign up for our newsletter here: cetalingua.com , we will send notification when this pro
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cetalingua
6y ago
It is not easy, we have not yet cracked the code, plus will they even have the motivation or any interest to communicate with us? What we do know is that they produce a variety of signals, some very complex and their communication is super
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cetalingua
7y ago
We are trying to do something similar (citizen science + AI) but for the acoustic data,our first model can identify manatee calls and mastication (chewing) sounds. https://manatee-chat-demo.appspot.com/
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cetalingua
7y ago
Humpback whales have mirror neurons (the ones implicated in "theory of mind") so they might show "compassion". There is so much we still do not know about marine mammals...
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cetalingua
7y ago
Humpback whales appear to show empathy towards other species. We have 115 documented cases of them doing so (and it is a lot given how hard it is to observe them). http://oceanwildthings.com/2018/06/what-humpback-w
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Show HN: New Platform – Citizen Science and AI to Decipher Marine Mammal Signals
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cetalingua
7y ago
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cetalingua
7y ago
Thank you!
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cetalingua
7y ago
>any suggestions for further reading? "Deep Thinkers" is a good recent book, you can check it out ( https://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/D/bo27... ) >Given our depth i
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cetalingua
7y ago
Oh, yes, Dr. Lilly and his NASA funded study. All acid, sex and other things aside, some of the stuff he did was indeed interesting, if only to get to know dolphins in a way impossible in the wild. There was one NPR interview with Margaret
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cetalingua
7y ago
>The meaning of a lot of human languages or alphabets is completely lost even if they were conceived by humans almost identical to us biologically. Hoping to understand alien languages without the aliens helping us is a pipe dream. There
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cetalingua
7y ago
>We know a lot about the language of large ocean mammals but it's just not as one to one with how we would translate it. Well, not exactly.In fact, we still know surprisingly little. For the humpback song, one of the most studied to
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cetalingua
7y ago
Speaking of dolphins (and whales for that matter), there is a reason why it has been so hard to not just "communicate" with them but to even understand the function and the meaning of a number of calls they make.It appears that it
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cetalingua
7y ago
Yet, after nearly 5 decades of research we are still unable to crack their code. We do know however that some sequences they make do not seem to be random.Our problem is to penetrate the communication system that is not visually based,and i
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cetalingua
8y ago
To add to the mystery, why do people get less motion sickness when they are not just passengers, but drive their car or a boat?
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Two more species of menopausal whales
(nature.com)
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cetalingua
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cetalingua
8y ago
>When you see it in nature, like in birds and whales, it's about finding a mate. Not exactly, at least for whales. The humpback whale song's function has not been fully understood. The initial hypothesis that it is a vocal disp
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cetalingua
8y ago
Agree!
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cetalingua
8y ago
First email, "you are in! ",second email "ups, actually, you are not". Crushing...
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cetalingua
8y ago
Great movie!
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cetalingua
8y ago
Even with a tag attached to a whale it is still impossible to be completely sure who made a sound. This is a big issue that has been haunting marine mammal communication research for decades. Hard to establish the function of the call when
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cetalingua
8y ago
We signed up for Stripe account on February 9, but are yet to start processing paymens, will our account be grandfathered in as well? I sent you email yesterday asking about it too. We did not receive Stripe email about changes. Could you p
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cetalingua
9y ago
Here is a question, how do they determine who is whistling to them if they do not see them? Is whistler's identity encoded in a whistle somehow? And if yes, then how? In cetacean whistles it is believed that dolphin's identity is
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cetalingua
9y ago
Denise Herzing used synthetic whistles trying to label things in our human way, pretty much the extension of Herman's line of thought. But we do not know if dolphins indeed label things in their natural communication system. Signature
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cetalingua
9y ago
The role of larynx in cetacean sound production is still debated, but we do know that they posses at least 2 sound generating mechanisms that could work independently and simultaneously. It appears that right side phonic lip is involved in
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