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carcostthrow
3y ago
I'm a little curious then, try your numbers with the 'L6R 2S5' postal code.
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carcostthrow
3y ago
Sure about that? https://ibb.co/8cjXRHc ...although yes I am lying about being on death row. Canada doesn't practical capital punishment. Certainly not for parking violations.
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carcostthrow
3y ago
You are right. I mistakenly failed to pay the parking meter on time 7 or 8 years and was issued a ticket. Of course I threw myself at the mercy of the courts; a simple mix up of days I pleaded. It was not the statutory holiday I thought it
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carcostthrow
3y ago
TD Insurance and Intact as well as a from an insurance broker.
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carcostthrow
3y ago
> I lived in a rural location and now in suburbs and still never had any issues, even 4 years ago when there were far fewer chargers. Here is a map of the level 2+ chargers in the country: As he said, different circumstances can shift th
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carcostthrow
3y ago
I don't think it's Tesla specific, seems more like at least for me EV's in general are significantly more expensive to insure. Mr. Rumor Mill is that part of it is just because of higher rates of cars being written off due to
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carcostthrow
3y ago
Yeah it's why I usually have to mention that context matters a lot when talking TCO . Where I live, not only is insurance more costly, electricity is also considerably more expensive (it's hit 20 cents a kilowatt hour though start
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carcostthrow
3y ago
Depends. My current SUV costs $1100 a year to insure including tax. I just got a quote for a Tesla Model 3 for the same level of coverage. As of today it's $6014 a year without tax. I don't drive enough to make up a difference of
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carcostthrow
4y ago
>My municipal electrical rate is $0.11/kWh and I've saved a small fortune compared to my old gas vehicle. For you it makes sense. Our residential rate just hit $0.20/kWh, excluding rider and admin fees. Plus higher purchas
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carcostthrow
4y ago
I'm in Canada in the prairies, so that might be making a difference. Where are you looking at?
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4y ago
>It has been the standard for quite a few years, and I cannot imagine only having 100A service in a proper house 100A service is fairly normal here for smaller homes. As heating here is primarily done by natural gas furnaces rather then
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4y ago
Oh it gets even funnier then that. So I took quick look into what it would actually take to upgrade the main circuit breaker in the house assuming a 100A to 200A upgrade is needed to accommodate both an EV and a heat pump. I thought it was
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carcostthrow
4y ago
Canadian dollars. I don't pretend to understand the reasoning, the insurers have their own logic. But anything with a battery (even PHEV's) seem to command a much higher premium; I was quoted $3400 a year last year for a RAV4 Prim
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carcostthrow
4y ago
They're actually reasonable, unfortunately. The garage is detached one fed by a single 120V circuit buried in PVC conduit, and it is enough for everything in there at the moment. But if a car's charging at the same time say someon
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carcostthrow
4y ago
For me it's a substantial cost increase. My gas is only about $2000 a year and maintenance is roughly $200 a year. So roughly speaking I'd be paying $900 a year more to drive an EV then to drive an ICE. That's even before you
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carcostthrow
4y ago
My ICE car right now costs $1100 in insurance. For me to insure an 2022 Acura NSX is $1500 a year to the same level. A Bolt to be insured to the exact same level is $$4200 a year. A Tesla Model 3 would ring me $5700 a year. A Porsche Taycan
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carcostthrow
5y ago
Could go either way. Where I live we also had issues with the grid getting close to capacity due to air conditioning. That said, someone mentioned to me once that it's about 7 years from the time a power company to notify the governmen
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5y ago
>A Load Miser can split the dryer circuit; charging happens overnight, so no usage conflicts. It was about $1,500 USD for my house to run a line from the attic. YMMV, but probably less expensive. I'm not sure why that would make any
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5y ago
Fair bit east and a quite a bit more north.
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5y ago
The main issue is that it's a single 120V circuit for everything in the garage, including the garage door opener. Assuming you open the garage door (say with a remote garage door opener) while the car is charging, it will trip the brea
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carcostthrow
5y ago
US vs Canada I assume. Last time I looked at the Bolt Premier some years ago the dealer would not budge off of the $50,000+ price. And for that price I was sitting in the most uncomfortable seats I've ever sat in for a personal vehicle
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5y ago
Already factored into the $200/yr maintenance. Oil changes at dealerships nowadays are essentially loss leaders for them; $75 to $80 for full synthetic change, oil filter replacement and windshield wiper fluid top off, and most include
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5y ago
I don't claim to understand the reasoning behind it, these were just the quotes I got shopping around. I never imagined that a $180,000 hybrid supercar would be cheaper to insure the PHEV version of a family oriented CUV but but here w
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5y ago
>And everyone should stop driving fossil vehicles starting now. [...] There’s no excuse not to. Isn't there? Right now for me to own a Ford Mach E, a Tesla Model 3 or a RAV4 Prime is $3400 to $3700 per year for comprehensive insuran