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brig90
1y ago
Honestly I've never heard of Rohonc Codex. I'll have to check it out! Thanks!
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brig90
1y ago
I'm definitely not the most comfortable writing in public forums, so guilty as charged with throwing my comments through an LLM to make sure my point isn't being misconstrued.
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Honestly, I had never even heard of the manuscript before this weekend. I’ve been looking for interesting ways to strengthen my understanding of NLPs, and thought: 1) maybe this would be a good fit, and 2) maybe it hadn’t been approache
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1y ago
Great question — and something I've been thinking about. I stripped suffixes mostly to normalize some of the repeated endings (aiin, dy, etc.) that felt like filler, but you’re totally right that preserving them might preserve structur
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Totally — I love that kind of sideways thinking. Earthquake prediction feels like one of those massive, noisy systems where patterns might exist, but they’re buried deep in complexity. I’ll admit, I know absolutely nothing about seismology,
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This doesn’t burst my bubble at all — if anything, it’s great to hear that others have been able to make meaningful progress using different methods. I wasn’t trying to crack the manuscript or stake a claim on the origin; this project was m
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That’s a really interesting question — and one I’ve been circling in the back of my head, honestly. I’m not a cryptographer, so I can’t speak to how feasible a brute-force approach is at scale, but the idea of mapping each Voynich “word” to
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1y ago
Apologies but its not letting me edit post any longer (I'm new to HN), here's the link though: https://brig90.substack.com/p/modeling-the-voynich-manuscrip...
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1y ago
Thanks for pointing those out — I hadn’t seen PaCMAP or LocalMAP before, but that definitely looks like the kind of structure-preserving approach that would fit this data better than PCA. Appreciate the nudge — going to dig into those a bit
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I’m definitely not a Voynich expert or linguist — I stumbled into this more or less by accident and thought it would make for a fun NLP learning project. Really appreciate you pointing to those names and that forum — I wasn’t aware of the d
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Totally fair — I defaulted to paraphrase-multilingual-MiniLM-L12-v2 mostly for speed and wide compatibility, but you’re right that it’s long in the tooth by today’s standards. I’d be really curious to see how something like all-mpnet-base-v
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Great points — thank you. PCA gave me surprisingly clean separation early on, so I stuck with it for the initial run. But you’re right — throwing UMAP or t-SNE at it would definitely give a nonlinear perspective that could catch subtler pat
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Yep, that’s exactly right — the words like "okeeodair" come directly from the EVA transliteration files, which map the original Voynich glyphs to ASCII approximations. So I’m not working with the glyphs themselves, but rather the
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Great question — and you’re right to catch the assumption there. I did assume left-to-right when stripping suffixes, mostly because that’s how the transliteration files were structured and how most Voynich analyses approach it. I didn’t tes
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Yep, that was my takeaway too — the structure feels too consistent to be random, and it echoes known linguistic patterns.
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Show HN: I modeled the Voynich Manuscript with SBERT to test for structure
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