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braunboffel
2y ago
> Modos is working on a 60fps e-ink monitor Fundamentally, my opinion is all these things trying to move electrophoretic ink fast are misguided. You end up using so much energy trying to move particles that are inherently designed to be
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braunboffel
2y ago
Patents were never the issue, there was one crazy comment on HN a few years back claiming that it was and somehow it became a mindworm that kept getting repeated. You can prove this to yourself by asking anyone that repeats the claim of pat
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braunboffel
2y ago
RPM? You think the ink rotates?
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braunboffel
2y ago
> I'm surprised the eink patent holders are seemingly content to lose their patent in time instead of licensing it and making real money and I'm surprised I keep reading such claims on HN and everytime anyone ask which patent y
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braunboffel
2y ago
> We just need exciting products now. Will you be working on such a product? :-D
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braunboffel
2y ago
> the laws of physics do not stop anything from moving more than 14 times per second, Sorry, but this is like saying the laws of physics do not stop you from moving from Mars to Earth 14 times per second. In fact, they do. The same is tr
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braunboffel
2y ago
> most of the screen refresh algorithms etc are Eink IP Please help the rest of us understand what you mean. What specific algorithms are you referring to?
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braunboffel
2y ago
> so they keep the cost low by not innovating on responsiveness Could you clarify who the "they" is? The way you write "not innovating on responsiveness" sounds very confident. Do you have a background in electrophore
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braunboffel
2y ago
"The world of e-paper displays is one of the most undocumented you can find: this is the unfortunate side effects of patented technologies, as there is a strong incentive to avoid disclosing useful information, with the effect of slowi
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braunboffel
3y ago
Ok, so you're unable to provide evidence. Got it.
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braunboffel
3y ago
> Now some hacker is gonna respond complaining about Onyx not respecting some GNU license or other meaningless stuff, but the fact remains that they are cutting edge in eInk. Expensive though. Please clarify what you mean by "not re
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braunboffel
3y ago
> Case in point E-ink technology, still extremely expensive due to corporate choices that favoured "milking" over "scaling". You say that with such confidence like as if it is a well proven fact. Care to share your ev
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braunboffel
3y ago
> I do recall that patents/trademarks/tech are owned by E-Ink inc., and one of the biggest reason for the cost is them gouging the market? That mechanism can keep high prices for a long time. recall? gouging? You mean you have
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braunboffel
3y ago
> The main reason there isn't is because e-ink tech is controlled by a company with a strict and expensive licensing arrangement When? Where? How? Is this based on your direct experience? Please share some evidence so that your clai
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braunboffel
3y ago
eink doesn't use rotating balls. You're confusing eink with gyricon from Xerox. That product died ages ago.
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braunboffel
3y ago
> Because they are massive parent trolls who sue and prevent competition. They need to be called out whenever the technology is mentioned. Where? How? Please share some evidence so that your claims can be verified.
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braunboffel
3y ago
> I've heard that Eink is notoriously hard to work with From whom? I asked someone who commented this on HN and the person replied saying that they had refused to help him debug his 3 display project. So yes, any display company is
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braunboffel
3y ago
> I'm generally a fan of eInk stuff, their suspicion of/hostility towards the GPL makes me not want to support them. What suspicion or hostility does E Ink Corp have towards the GPL?
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braunboffel
3y ago
> I always saw the problem as: only one company or limited companies can manufacture them. That is a really odd assumption. There are multiple companies making electrophoretic displays and multiple different technologies, of which only o
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braunboffel
3y ago
> E-ink is tied up with patents so there aren’t many organizations that can work on improving it. I find myself forced to repeat myself. Could you give everyone here some verifiable data? Please identify what patent you're talking a
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braunboffel
3y ago
I'm confused. You made a statement that they're not licensing their patent. I'm asking you what is that based on. Who asked to license their patent and was denied? Surely you have that since you made that claim right? Just yo
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braunboffel
3y ago
> They’re just not licensing the patent to other manufacturers Who? Some data backing the claim up please.
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braunboffel
3y ago
> use the patent to prevent everyone else > the history of e-ink Could you give everyone here some verifiable data? Please identify what patent you're talking about. I hope I will get a genuine response from someone who genuinely
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braunboffel
3y ago
> someone owns a key patent (e.g. e-ink, Could you identify what patent that is? I hope I will get a genuine response from someone who genuinely knows that industry because the last time I asked I just got a patents.google.com/searc
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braunboffel
3y ago
> e-ink is still governed under a patent you must license and pay royalties to if I recall correctly Recall correctly meaning you were involved and have direct knowledge or meaning you read it as an unsubstantiated comment somewhere here
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braunboffel
3y ago
> On the other hand, I suspect EPD companies try to keep the low-level details (like driving waveforms) secret because that's a large part of their IP. They want to be able to sell controllers for them too. Could you share what evid
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braunboffel
3y ago
The problem is physics. Not patents.
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braunboffel
3y ago
> You'd think the company holding the patents has little incentives to push the tech forward at a faster pace, given the slow advances seen in the last decade and a half. Laws of physics don't change. Patents aren't the pr
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braunboffel
3y ago
I noticed I got downvoted for trying to understand what someone was saying. Your answer helped a bit but I still don't really understand what OP was trying to say. In any case, it says a lot about communication on HN. I'd also lik
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braunboffel
3y ago
> The race of Workman seems to bear no relation to the story itself, so why the callout? I didn't understand 'callout'. "a statement drawing critical attention to someone's unacceptable actions or behaviour."
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